Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 18
  1. #1
    New Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    7
    Location
    Waxhaw, NC
    Tractor
    Kubota BX1860

    Default Requesting words of wisdom

    I'm requesting some wise hints/tips from experienced subcompact tractor owners. I've recently purchased a kubota BX1870 and am expecting its arrival from the dealer possibly next week. I have a few recent hours on my brother-in-law's ancient Iseki and as a teenager I spent several dozens of hours bush-hogging on a Case 930 and an old JD "poppin John". That was back in the '70's.

    I did considerable research before deciding on the BX1870 (actually my research was on the BX1860 but I believe the only changes are cosmetic and moving the brake pedal from the right to the left side of the operator deck). The tractor will come with an FEL (LA203), a Land Pride grooming mower (FDR1648) and a 5' Land Pride scraper blade. There will be no mid-mount mower (thus leaving the underside of the tractor exposed).

    We live in the Piedmont area of North Carolina on three and a half acres; about half the property is wooded, the other half fields with pasture grass/weeds. I intend to use the tractor for mowing and moderate landscaping.

    Herewith some of my questions:

    1. With no MMM, would I be smart to get the Bro-Tek rear plate? There will be times I'll be going into low brush.

    2. Is the 5' scraper blade sufficient ballast while using the FEL? I'll be using the FEL for carrying dry fill dirt, mulch, gravel, sand and occasional chunks of firewood. I'll also be using it as an occasional hoist (the dealer will be welding a 1/2" chain hook on each upper corner of the bucket); in these instances I envision using it to tug logs out as I'm cutting back on the woods on our property. The scraper blade will be used mainly to pull dirt from one spot to another spot and for leveling.

    3. Will the grooming mower perform as an occasional light duty bush-hog? The dealer told me that it would cut rough pasture grass but there is one area (my septic drain field) where I get the seasonal saplings (less than half inch trunk diameter) springing out of the ground.

    4. Is there any one (or more) pieces of advise that any of you wished you had been told before you got your tractor and started using it?

    I'll be very grateful for any words of wisdom from those of you that have the knowledge and experience I don't have. If anyone asks me a question and I don't respond quickly it's because I'll be outside most of today planting tomatoes, okra, late beets, cucumbers and more green beans. Thanks very much in advance.

    Ben

  2. #2
    Elite Member Don87's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    4,226
    Location
    SW Pa.
    Tractor
    Massey Ferguson GC2400

    Default Re: Requesting words of wisdom

    Answers:

    1) yes

    2) probably

    3) probably for what you described, but 2 passes may be needed the first time. But pruning shears will make quick work on those small saplings, thus taking the stress off the mower.

    4) keep FEL loads as low to the ground as possible, and travel slowly, with your hand on the FEL joystick to drop it quickly if needed.

    Be careful

    Read the operators manual several times. Become familiar with every page.

    Have fun using your new toy.......er tool
    Don

    MF GC2400, FEL, 60in.MMM, 5ft. Cultivator, Single Bottom Plow, Bush Hog RTC48 tiller, MF 2360 front mount snowblower, 5ft backblade. BXpanded Piranha toothbar.

  3. #3
    Super Star Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    16,766
    Location
    Missouri
    Tractor
    Kubota, John Deere, Case, Massey Ferguson, Ford

    Default Re: Requesting words of wisdom

    I am certainly no expert, but here is my opinion, we got our first BX, a 2200 in 2003 and a BX2660 in 2008; still have both.


    1. With no MMM, would I be smart to get the Bro-Tek rear plate? There will be times I'll be going into low brush.
    Even with the improved HST fan protection plate added a couple of years ago, I would still go with a protection plate/plates from Bro Tek or Bxpanded. I have Bro Tek, but look at both to see which you prefer.

    2. Is the 5' scraper blade sufficient ballast while using the FEL? I'll be using the FEL for carrying dry fill dirt, mulch, gravel, sand and occasional chunks of firewood. I'll also be using it as an occasional hoist (the dealer will be welding a 1/2" chain hook on each upper corner of the bucket); in these instances I envision using it to tug logs out as I'm cutting back on the woods on our property. The scraper blade will be used mainly to pull dirt from one spot to another spot and for leveling.
    It depends on how much it weighs, but I suspect it won't be sufficient as mine isn't. Some build a ballast box to add weight I use a box scraper which is heavier than my blade. If you find you need more weight, it is easy to hang something on the box scraper. I suppose you can on the blade, I just prefer the box scraper as I can move much more dirt with it. As to the hooks, I prefer them welded to bucket in line with the loader arms.

    3. Will the grooming mower perform as an occasional light duty bush-hog? The dealer told me that it would cut rough pasture grass but there is one area (my septic drain field) where I get the seasonal saplings (less than half inch trunk diameter) springing out of the ground.
    There is a difference in "can" and "should", I suspect the RFM will cut what you describe, but I will hold off on recommending it. Maybe someone else can speak to this.

    4. Is there any one (or more) pieces of advise that any of you wished you had been told before you got your tractor and started using it?
    Not that I can think of, but if I do, I will post back. Oh check all fasteners and your front axle fluid after a few hours of use as they tend to settle in after a bit and needs to be topped off.

    JOHNTHOMAS
    has a thread on 50 hour maintenance and has owned a bunch of these small tractors, so read some of his old threads and other BX owners. Good luck and enjoy your tractor, these are very tough capable little machines.

  4. #4
    Elite Member gwdixon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    2,706
    Location
    Northern CA

    Default Re: Requesting words of wisdom

    1) You will eventually go into the woods with the tractor. Some kind of protection for the fan is advisable. If you can't fabricate a plate then Bro-Tek works.

    2) The dealer should have filled the rear tires with water for ballast. The LA205 FEL will not lift much so water in the tires works well for ballast. You will soon know if ballast is needed if on the first heavy lift you need to go into 4WD to move. As said, always keep a heavy load low just in case. A rear blade does work as ballast but severely limits maneuverability, especially in the woods.

    You may want to look into buying a Carry-All to carry ballast on a pallet. Then you can use it to do other jobs as well.

    3) A finish mower is just that. More of a lawn maintenance tool or to make a pasture look like a lawn. You will have to go s-l-o-o-o-w in heavy grass. Check Craig's List every now and then to see if you can come up with a 4' used bush hog. It will make things go much faster and you can use the finish mower properly. A bush hog (rotary mower) can also be used in the woods for clearing. The saplings over your septic lines won't have a chance with a bush hog.

    4) Post back when you run into a situation where a second opinion may help out. The TBN guys are very helpful and have a wealth of knowledge. And don't forget photos.

    You don't mention the tires. Turf tires probably but you may have R1s. The turf tires are going to be an issue if trying to drag logs.

    If the dealer puts the chain grab hooks on the ends of the bucket then you are in for trouble. Never pull or lift from one end. It will cause tractor instability and has the potential to tweak the FEL out of alignment. The grab hooks need to be even with, or inside of, the boom arms of the FEL. On my BX2200 I have one on the top center of the bucket and one on the lower back of the bucket. Lifting from those points makes for a stable lift.

    Soooo....
    A) Have the dealer fill the rear tires.

    B) Have the grab hooks welded in the middle. This will require that the top bucket edge be reinforced - I used a couple of feet of 1/2" (or maybe it was 3/4" pipe) welded under the lip. Whatever fits snugly.

    EDIT: Darn you TripleR. You slipped in your post ahead of mine and stole my thunder.
    2009 Kubota M7040, R1s, LA1153 FEL, fork lift, 3 rear remotes, T&T
    2002 Kubota L48 TLB, 12", 18", 24" HD buckets
    2001 Kubota BX2200, Turf, LA211 FEL
    7.5' Howse 3PT disc, 88" Gearmore 4G4 box scraper, 4' box scraper, Gearmore GB85 blade, LandPride RCR2596 cutter, 6', 4' flail mowers, 6', 4' rototiller, 4' Bush Hog cutter, HD subsoiler, Bearcat 70554 chipper, Bush Hog PHD w/ 12", 6" augers, Ford 101 3-bottom plow, 8' land leveler, 6' rake, lots of misc.

  5. #5
    New Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    7
    Location
    Waxhaw, NC
    Tractor
    Kubota BX1860

    Default Re: Requesting words of wisdom

    Thanks guys for the excellent responses and advise. (I've come inside for a quick lunch and decided to see if anyone had responded.) I'll talk to the dealer on Monday about the placement of the chain hooks and water in the rear tires. The tires are in fact turf tires; the dealer had suggested those when I told him some of the work would be in the back yard and I would be crossing one side of the front yard while moving fill dirt. I'll look into ordering the Bro-Tek plate as soon as possible... I'd prefer to have that in place before I operate the tractor. Thanks again.

    Ben

  6. #6
    Elite Member Don87's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    4,226
    Location
    SW Pa.
    Tractor
    Massey Ferguson GC2400

    Default Re: Requesting words of wisdom

    Your welcome.

    If you have any more questions, don't be afraid to ask.

    And welcome to TBN
    Don

    MF GC2400, FEL, 60in.MMM, 5ft. Cultivator, Single Bottom Plow, Bush Hog RTC48 tiller, MF 2360 front mount snowblower, 5ft backblade. BXpanded Piranha toothbar.

  7. #7
    Gold Member unbidden's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    424
    Location
    R.I.
    Tractor
    Kubota BX2660

    Default Re: Requesting words of wisdom

    I'm in agreement with what has been said.

    Definitely get a skid plate. The Bro-Teks are nice, you can also take a look at the BXpanded.com Under Armor. Easy install on and off if need be.

    I wouldn't trust the weight of the scraper blade as ballast, particularly when the loader is full and several feet off the ground. My guess is that blade weighs less than 300lbs.

    Let the finish mower be just that, a finish mower; costs too much to be using it as a brush cutter.

    Other suggestions: check all nuts and bolts after a few hours of operation. As mentioned, check the front differential fluid after 5 - 10 hours; check all fluids for that matter. Get yourself a bucket hook or two, you'll need it, trust me. You can purchase bolt ons but mine is welded onto the top of the bucket. I do have a brush mower but at times use a chain and BrushGrubber to pull saplings and other brush.
    Last edited by unbidden; 04-20-2013 at 12:55 PM. Reason: sp.


    Foster Center, RI

  8. #8
    Veteran Member RaydaKub's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    1,682
    Location
    Rochester, MN
    Tractor
    Kubota BX2230

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BenRich View Post
    1. With no MMM, would I be smart to get the Bro-Tek rear plate? There will be times I'll be going into low brush.

    2. Is the 5' scraper blade sufficient ballast while using the FEL? I'll be using the FEL for carrying dry fill dirt, mulch, gravel, sand and occasional chunks of firewood. I'll also be using it as an occasional hoist (the dealer will be welding a 1/2" chain hook on each upper corner of the bucket); in these instances I envision using it to tug logs out as I'm cutting back on the woods on our property. The scraper blade will be used mainly to pull dirt from one spot to another spot and for leveling.

    3. Will the grooming mower perform as an occasional light duty bush-hog? The dealer told me that it would cut rough pasture grass but there is one area (my septic drain field) where I get the seasonal saplings (less than half inch trunk diameter) springing out of the ground.

    4. Is there any one (or more) pieces of advise that any of you wished you had been told before you got your tractor and started using it?

    I'll be very grateful for any words of wisdom from those of you that have the knowledge and experience I don't have. If anyone asks me a question and I don't respond quickly it's because I'll be outside most of today planting tomatoes, okra, late beets, cucumbers and more green beans. Thanks very much in advance.

    Ben
    Welcome to TBN. Remember the proper etiquette here though. We gotta see it to believe it.

    I would add my vote to what Triple and GW have said. BroTek and BXpanded both have great under-body protection. BroTek's actually comes as 3 parts and covers the whole underside while BXpanded's appears to cover more than BroTek's (if rear only). And BXpanded's can come off easily and quickly. Your choice, either will save your bacon over no "cup" at all. I chose the BroTek because my tractor is older and BXpanded didn't seem to offer one to fit. I only went with the rear plate, but then I added my own protection forward using the mower lift on the rear of a piece of 1/2" inch real plywood (not this osb stuff). It goes forward about 3 inches past where the front drive shaft starts to come down. Some guys reported that they got sticks up into the radiator fan (and that's why BroTek added the 3rd plate). I didn't see myself getting into stuff that wicked, but a small stick won't ever push through my plywood either.

    Good advice on the hooks too. Keep them inside and try to use both at once to help keep the balance if lifting. You're pretty far south, but keep in mind that water freezes. Maybe a little washer fluid or RV antifreeze would be in order as well.

    I learned to drive on my dad's 51 Model A JD. Then I graduated to a 730 Case. I was replaced when I went to college with a 930 Case, but I still got pretty good hours in on it. Sounds like we had similar upbringing. Enjoy that new tractor!

    Sent from my iPad using TractorByNet

  9. #9
    Super Member Gary Fowler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    8,223
    Location
    Bismarck Arkansas
    Tractor
    2009 Kubota RTV 900, 2009 Kubota B26 TLB & 2010 model LS P7010

    Default Re: Requesting words of wisdom

    Quote Originally Posted by BenRich View Post
    .

    2. Is the 5' scraper blade sufficient ballast while using the FEL? I'll be using the FEL for carrying dry fill dirt, mulch, gravel, sand and occasional chunks of firewood. I'll also be using it as an occasional hoist (the dealer will be welding a 1/2" chain hook on each upper corner of the bucket);
    I hope you were misquoting the size of the chain hooks. No way in h$ll will you need a 1/2" chain on a BX more likely a 3/16 or even smaller will handle all that little tractor will lift. If for instance you have some 5/16 or 3/8" pull chain, you could put a 3/8" chain hook on and use both but you would be way overkill on the chain and really be limiting your lift by at least 40 lbs on a 20 foot long x 3/8 chain. Hooks should be placed at the corners or rather in line with the lift points of the FEL bucket, and always use both hook so you are equally applying force to both sides. Never pick from on side only to prevent tipping your tractor. Hooking your chain in a V with the bottom of the V being the attachment point of the object lifted and the top of the V being the attachment point on the tractor. Hooking in the middle of your FEL bucket is why you see so many bent lips on the FEL. Before you place one in the middle, put some reinforcement angle or other material across the lip and then you will be OK.
    2010 LS P-7010C 20F/20R gear tractor & FEL, 2009 Kubota B 26 TLB, RTV 900 Kubota,17 foot Lund boat with 70HP motor, 2012-20 ft 12k GVW trailer, 2011- 52" Craftsman ZTR mower, 2013 Ferris Zero Turn, 3 weed whackers, pressure washer, leaf blowers, 7 foot bush hog, 8 foot landscape rake , 8 foot 3 PH disc, 2 row cultivator, 350 amp Miller AC/DC welding machine and all the tools needed to keep them all repaired and running.

  10. #10
    Super Star Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    16,766
    Location
    Missouri
    Tractor
    Kubota, John Deere, Case, Massey Ferguson, Ford

    Default Re: Requesting words of wisdom

    Quote Originally Posted by gwdixon View Post
    1) You will eventually go into the woods with the tractor. Some kind of protection for the fan is advisable. If you can't fabricate a plate then Bro-Tek works.

    2) The dealer should have filled the rear tires with water for ballast. The LA205 FEL will not lift much so water in the tires works well for ballast. You will soon know if ballast is needed if on the first heavy lift you need to go into 4WD to move. As said, always keep a heavy load low just in case. A rear blade does work as ballast but severely limits maneuverability, especially in the woods.

    You may want to look into buying a Carry-All to carry ballast on a pallet. Then you can use it to do other jobs as well.

    3) A finish mower is just that. More of a lawn maintenance tool or to make a pasture look like a lawn. You will have to go s-l-o-o-o-w in heavy grass. Check Craig's List every now and then to see if you can come up with a 4' used bush hog. It will make things go much faster and you can use the finish mower properly. A bush hog (rotary mower) can also be used in the woods for clearing. The saplings over your septic lines won't have a chance with a bush hog.

    4) Post back when you run into a situation where a second opinion may help out. The TBN guys are very helpful and have a wealth of knowledge. And don't forget photos.

    You don't mention the tires. Turf tires probably but you may have R1s. The turf tires are going to be an issue if trying to drag logs.

    If the dealer puts the chain grab hooks on the ends of the bucket then you are in for trouble. Never pull or lift from one end. It will cause tractor instability and has the potential to tweak the FEL out of alignment. The grab hooks need to be even with, or inside of, the boom arms of the FEL. On my BX2200 I have one on the top center of the bucket and one on the lower back of the bucket. Lifting from those points makes for a stable lift.

    Soooo....
    A) Have the dealer fill the rear tires.

    B) Have the grab hooks welded in the middle. This will require that the top bucket edge be reinforced - I used a couple of feet of 1/2" (or maybe it was 3/4" pipe) welded under the lip. Whatever fits snugly.

    EDIT: Darn you TripleR. You slipped in your post ahead of mine and stole my thunder.
    You know what they say about great minds nd I left out the part on filled tires, we did that on ours and it sure helps.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Seeking Words of Wisdom from Former L39/Current L45 Owners
    By avc8130 in forum Kubota Owning/Operating
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 12-09-2012, 07:45 PM
  2. An old Farmer's Words of Wisdom we could all live by.......
    By cal1 in forum Kubota Owning/Operating
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 10-20-2011, 03:21 PM
  3. Loader Requesting for information
    By bjmtei in forum Mahindra Owning/Operating
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-04-2010, 01:07 AM
  4. Snow Equipment Owning/Operating Mid Atlantic Snow storm, words of wisdom?
    By smfcpacfp in forum Snow Removal
    Replies: 42
    Last Post: 03-09-2010, 07:57 PM
  5. Words Of Wisdom
    By MossRoad in forum Related Topics
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 02-08-2002, 09:31 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
© 2014 TractorByNet.com. TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners.