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    Default Re: about the cost of john deere

    In this area kubota tractors seem to be in the majority and a lot of that is the result of the area dealers. There are two JD dealers within 50 miles, one sells oversize lawn tractors and did not even want to talk about a Diesel for fear they might need to work on it and the other dealer is more of a larger AG specialist. On the other hand the Kubota dealers had pretty much an example of each series on the lot. Another thing to consider right now is that with all the different brands offering low or 0 interest, it is easier for a first time buyer to come up with a down payment than the cash price for a used tractor. I agree that they are all good and I would be happy with any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRF View Post
    and let's not forget the 3 most important things...condition condition condition
    No in this case it is consumer stupidity - or dumb, dumb, dumb. As even evidenced in this thread many consumers believe JD means "Made In America", not "well we bought parts from all over the world and put the big pieces together here".

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    Quote Originally Posted by don45640 View Post
    Okay.....I JUST watched a John Deere commercial that led me to believe they're made in America. Are they, or just some of them? If I were buying a tractor,I WOULD prefer the one made in America(that INCLUDES Canada).Preferably union made, but not a deal-breaker. don-ohio (:^)
    And when you get to the small stuff, like the JD chainsaws used to be (and may still be) the only part made in America is the profit. I've a JD CS62 and it's an EFCO from Italy that's been painted green.

    LOT'S of people want to "Buy America" and JD capitalizes on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by country gentleman View Post
    <snip>neither jd dealer I was dealing with had any used kabota's on their lots. they had several other makes of used machines. kabota simply isn't the go to machine around here. I spent a lot of time looking at every make and model available, and kept coming back to john deere. kabota's loader control was the first big turn off for me. it is horendous and antiquated. A lot longer leaver which trnslates into a lot longer throw to achieve the same control of a shorter and more comfortably placed control like on the john deere 1026r. I am not knocking those who do like kabota, I was simply relaying my experience with the different dealers I was dealing with.
    Well part of your problem may be that "Kabota" isn't a tractor. When I bought my B7610 the guy had advertised it on Craigslist misspelled. And he didn't mention "tractor".
    My rides - '95 Kubota M4700 w/ PEC, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, '09 Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, 2 Piranha's, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller, 5' Big Bee cutter, with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all

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    My JD 5045E was made in India and there was never any doubt in my mind about where it was made. There is a world of difference between owning and operating factories in numerous countries where you build tractors and components for your world wide customers and just buying a complete product from some Red army owned factory in China and changing the paint and stickers. Sure JD subs out some of the small stuff like lawn mower engines and chainsaws but the bigger you go the more "Built by JD in a JD plant" you get. It would be interesting to see a tractor "Blue Book" of used tractors and compare several models all with say five years and 2000 hours of use to compare trade in wholesale value. I'm betting it varies both between brands and their model lines to the point that any statement such as "JD is always more expensive" or kubota’s hold their value the best" is wrong or at least not always correct.

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    Now I feel so stupid for having bought a kabota, I wonder if I'll be able to give it away ...maybe someone will haul it away for scrap metal even if its made from cheepish japanese junk.

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    I'll be happy to dispose of all the unwanted "Kabotas" for any TBN member.

    Around New England, kubota is the most common and seems like the "premium" brand by local pricing. My local JD dealer has a few Kubotas on their lot and they have prices that exceed their equivalent JD tractors. New value, trade value and pricing varies greatly depending on area and local opinion.

    I don't know if it's the color or just the good reputation, but Kioti is becoming more common around here and pricing up there with Kubota and John Deere.
    I've had a wonderful evening, but this wasn't it. ~ Groucho Marx

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    Both JD and kubota are good. But they are different. The control and handling characteristics are different, and so are things like access, weight, etc. Much of the choice for a tractor gets down to buyer preferences. There is also a lot of truth to the idea of differences by region. Some areas are more JD by tradition, some some other color. But none of that should impugn the quality of any. Certainly there are lemons in any line, and unusually great units as well.

    Candidly, for my first tractor, I bought an old JD 2030... Because my Dad (a farmer) had JD and I was familiar with the tractor. I paid $8000 for it in 2001, with 2100 hours. Sold it in 2012 for $6000 with 2800 hours and bought another JD for several reasons... I tried both K tractors, MF and M, and really preferred the control layout of the JD - and so did my wife (my other tractor operator). I also preferred the JD dealer. However, had one of the other tractors had a more appealing - to me - layout and a decent dealer, I'd have had no trouble going that way.

    Most of us would prefer a 100% USA model, but they don't exist any more. So we simply go for the product.

    Arguing over brand - with the exception of those where quality is a real issue - is like arguing over a favorite color or food. It's just not the same for everyone.

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    Default Re: about the cost of john deere

    10 years ago green would have higher resale but these days if condition is nice any main brand will sell for about the same on auctions . And so far this year prices are very high

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    Quote Originally Posted by country gentleman View Post
    in this part of the world kubota isn't that popular, and people that do buy them for some reason don't seem to keep them very long. lots of 4-5 year old machines advertised for sale with low hours. neither jd dealer I was dealing with had any used kabota's on their lots. they had several other makes of used machines. kabota simply isn't the go to machine around here. I spent a lot of time looking at every make and model available, and kept coming back to john deere. kabota's loader control was the first big turn off for me. it is horendous and antiquated. A lot longer leaver which trnslates into a lot longer throw to achieve the same control of a shorter and more comfortably placed control like on the john deere 1026r. I am not knocking those who do like kabota, I was simply relaying my experience with the different dealers I was dealing with.

    I think it is best to buy what tractor you are most satisfied with and hopefully a good dealer to boot. I have five Deere's and several of their implements most of this has been pretty good. Overall I have been satisfied with the equipment and the dealer. I have never found tractors for small homeowners or small farms to be very costly as long as you don't trade them frequently. If you keep any of them for a long period of time the cost is minimal/year imo.

    We are fortunate to have a wide variety of brands nationwide that are all good tractors. I would think that for most new buyers it is more a matter of assesing their long term needs so as to prevent having to trade repeatedly that is more of an issue. If you buy the correct size and right features I don't really think it matters what brand it is because they will all do the job and the customer will be happy with it.

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    Quote by Newbury: `I've a JD CS62 and it's an EFCO from Italy that's been painted green'.END QUOTE.

    Well,I don't know anything about EFCO,newbury,but if it's the quality of my Italian MOPEDS, I'll buy it. Too bad, the USA has given over the market to foreign companies,but it's the facts. don-ohio (:^)

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    Huh? Having looked at the used kubota M5040/5140 market. Everything used was abused and over priced. Which is why we bought new. I looked at everything used in TX, AR, OK, MO and LA.

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