This thread is ugly without pictures and hurting for a definition of "utility sized tractor".
Newbury,
Thanks for the pics! Your absolutely right, this thread needs more pictures :laughing: I agree that the M series Kubotas are utility class tractors. There are many pics of utility sized machines on this thread:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/250577-utility-sized-tractor-picutures.html
Hopefully there will be more added as well
Speaking of adding pics of utility sized machines, I believe you owners of the new NH T4.75 and Case 75C are seriously lacking in your obligation to post photos of your new tractors
It isn't always about traction. Running pto powered equipment uses hp more so then traction
Robert,
I absolutely agree with that statement! Especially when it comes to mowing, or haying even (and I'm sure a lot of other reasons as well, snowblower comes to mind) but eventually, the implements that take a really lot of power, will get too big/heavy for the tractor to handle in general. I think a JD 4720 has been used to pull a 15' batwing, but I imagine it's overloading the recommended hitch weight for the tractor, in fact I think I remember someone breaking their hitch from the tongue weight of a batwing mower?
I could see the appeal of a really high horsepower CUT for something like a batwing mower though, if that is the only large job. Maybe that's why the CUT's are getting more and more powerful? Maybe they are finding that a lot of people need high horsepower required at the PTO but don't do ground engaging work. :confused3:
Some may even have bought way more tractor then they really need trying to one up other posters here....
VT, I often wonder about that being a driving force on here as well, however, I think with almost 200,000 members on here, it's gonna take a lot more than someone may think to "one up" everybody on here. :laughing:
I think the utility sized tractors do offer better value in terms of hp to weight, and ability to get work done. However, I don't agree that the CUT's are as expensive as they are without a reason. Many of the CUT's have very sophisticated HST systems as well as some 'luxury' options that simply aren't available on the utility sized machines, or, if they are, they take away the presumed 'better value' of the utility machine.
All the research and development, as well as quality and available options, cost a lot of money to produce and engineer. That cost has to be absorbed by someone, the consumer. I think it's the same thing for the argument of paying for the "name" when you buy a JD or Kubota. I don't agree that your paying for the name, or color of tractor, I believe the reason they are more expensive is because they are either more advanced, offer more options, or simply have more refined systems with tighter tolerances. Whether it's worth it to you to pay a premium for the amenities is completely up to you, that's the beauty of all the choices we have these days! (I may have strayed off topic a little here :laughing
Now, what were you saying about more pictures? :laughing: