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hazmat

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Rookies with FEL\'s READ THIS - Tractor Ballast 101

I seem to be reading alot about unstable tractors/rear ballast/loaded tires lately. I won't hyperlink the threads to protect the innocent, but what I've been reading concerns me.

I've decided to outline a simple three step procedure to help those of you new to tractoring, use your FEL safely. After all I'm just past my rookie year myself.

Step 1. Read the FEL & Tractor Manuals! In most cases it (they) will clearly state how much tire & or three point hitch weight is required to safely operate the FEL. It doesn't matter if it is fluid filled tires or rear weights - The real farmers can study what works best regarding traction & compaction in the fields. For the majority here who are weekend warriors, it ain't going to make a difference - It comes down to personal preference, so long as you do it, or compensate for not loadin/weighting the rear tires by using the proper amount (typically several hundred pounds) on the three point hitch.

As an example. My TC18 which weighs 1,600# empty and has a loader that weighs 600# empty. The loader has a capacity of 600#. The manual recommends Loading the rear tires or rear tire weights (101# each) plus weight on the three point hitch. They go on to state that the tractor, with empty loader, should weigh at least 2,000# at the rear axle with the loader in carry position.

Assuming that the tractor empty probably has 1,000# on the rear + 600# on the front. You add most of the 600# loader to the front of the tractor. This requires a 1,000# additional weight on the rear end! The good news is that weight on the three point hitch counts about 1.5 times due to the moment effect. So, my loaded tires add ~400#, requiring another 400 # (400*1.5=600) on the three point hitch.

If I didn't load the tires (my turfs aren't loaded only the R4s), I'd need to add ~700# to the three point hitch. There aren't too many implements sized for an 18HP tractor that weigh that much. I happen to have a 5' aerator that weighs 350# + 560# ballast (concrete blocks) for a grand total of 910#. The aerator is a bit unwieldy, so I'm considering getting/building a ballast box to use when the turfs are on the machine.

Step 2. Insist that your dealer demonstrate how to properly use the machine. Specifically ask for some education regarding ballasting the tractor.

Step 3. Recognize that if you don't follow what the manual & dealer tell you to do, you are taking a risk. As you become more experienced, you may feel comfortable not using the full ballast for some tasks. Example, I use my FEL to pick up apple drops. Since I am using the FEL at far less than it's rated capacity, I feel comfortable relying on just the loaded tires for ballast. As you get more seat time in, your ability to calculate the risk goes up.

I'm getting off my soapbox now. Safe tractoring to all.
 
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Thanks for the 101 session HAZMAT. I like others had plenty of learning curve during the rookie year and pulled plenty of rear wheelies. The best thing people can do is LOAD the wheels and keep the attachments on.

<font color="red"> weight is you friend, compaction is in your mind </font> /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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Hazmat thats good sound advice too bad most of us will unfortunatley have to learn the hard way. Doesn't matter how hot you say the fire is someone always has to stick their finger in it to test the heat for themselves.

Did you do a few rear wheelies on the learning curve yourself?
 
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Yup, good advice Hazmat!

My tires are loaded up, but my mistake was working with gravel with the boxblade on. I got used to how much gravel I could pick up, then without thinking (it was late in the day, after all...) I grabbed a bucketful without the blade on (and hence less ballast) - won't do that again!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Keeping a heavy attachment on works great, especially if it's a boxblade, etc. - useful while moving dirt & gravel anyhow!
 
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Good post Hazmat. I have a BH that I keep on most of the time. During my learning curve, I definitely had my tractor lift a wheel a few times, even with the BH on and loaded tires. It was because of these "religious" experiences that I now have a little better feel for my tractor. The important thing to know is what causes it to happen and how to react. Even with huge amounts of ballast, it is easy to tip a tractor given the right circumstances. Fortunately during my close calls I had the instinct to dump the load in my loader, in other words, drop the loader as fast as possible. I think the most valuable thing that I learned, and I heard it here, is to keep your load "LOW and SLOW". If you start to tip, dump the load.

Greg
 
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I learned that lesson a long time ago. Now when I fill the bucket, I put it down to almost ground level before moving the tractor. When it is that low, it can't go much lower, so if you get into trouble, it has to be something other than the weight in the bucket. While cutting grass last week, I had a rock kick up when the blade hit it and it jammed under the mower deck and lifted the tractor on one side. Never had anything like that ever happen before, but the ground was very soft from the record 4" rain we had a couple of days before. Never saw that rock before all the rain either. If you have ever tipped over your tractor, you know that you definitely don't want to experience that again and you learn that no matter how tired or in a rush that you are, you always do it safely. I know because I was there 20 years ago... I was young and foolish back then.... now I am just foolish.... LOL......
 
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All,
...funny this thread came out when it did. Just today I went airborne on one rear wheel because of (1) too much gravel in my FEL, (2) some sloping terrain that I tried to negotiate the WRONG way!, and (3) had this gravel load too high.

I frantically waved to my wife to come over and provide some extra ballast on the high side, since I was leaning over the high side of the tractor ( similar to "heeling" in a sailboat). ...leave it too my way too smart wife ( good thing , elst I'd still be out there "heeling"!) to suggest lowering the bucket and dumping some gravel to bring the wheel down. ..duh!!

So after going in the house to change my underwear, I was a bit smarter about the use of the FEL. No lesson is driven home quite as effectively as the one learned the hard way...

Jeff
 
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My poor little B7100 spends half it's life with one or both rear tires off the ground when digging out trees or moving dirt with the bucket. Most of the land I work on is at 10 degree or more slope.

If a front tire was off the ground I'd get real worried unless I was using the bucket to sorta climb a tree to help push it over.

Egon
 
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Everyone has a wake up call while operating tractors and equipment. There are lines we often cross between safe and unsafe with the operation of equipment. It is imperative that we stay on the safe side as you never know when the circumstances will change and we are soon to find out we are not in control. I've got over forty years of tractor driving in and I still make mistakes. I still have all my fingers and toes as well as the people around me but there have been times that the worst was not that far away. Be Careful, the life you save may just be your own!
 
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By the looks you been working out your right arm Egon,sooo when plowing season arrives you shouldn't have a sore elbow working the joy stick. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

If one not in a hurry those little mules can do lot of work. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 

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