Mixing CaCl and Antifreeze

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Dillier23

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Case IH, Deere, Kubota, Yanmar
First year with this tractor and winter has showed that he fluid in the tires is not correct for the colder climates in central IL. I have two frozen chunks in the rear and it's making for a rough ride. The tires are tubeless as far as I know, no ill effects of running on the ice so far, tubes I assume would have punctured or cut by now.

Question is: Can I mix Calcium Chloride (assuming there is some in the tire) and antifreeze?
 
   / Mixing CaCl and Antifreeze #2  
Take a small taste. If its salty bitter its CaCl. If its neutral ~ sweet its Methanol. Add a concentrated mix of CaCl to your CaCl fill ... or pure methanol to your methanol fill to decrease freeze point.
larry
 
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If your tires are tubeless you probably shouldn't be using Calcium Chloride. It will eat the rims in a few years. Tubeless tires will normally say tubeless on the sidewall. Maybe they are filled with water or washer fluid that is too weak of a mixture. Beet juice (Rim Guard), washer antifreeze, or RV antifreeze is usually inside a tubeless tire (Or straight water in the far south where it doesn't freeze).
 
   / Mixing CaCl and Antifreeze
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The tire says tubeless, thats why I assume it's not damaging the tire running it around the property. I've ordered a bead breaker and plan on dumping at least 5 gallons of antifreeze in each tire. Hopefully that'll take care of the freezing problems.
 
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if your tire is tubeless and you break the bead, be prepared for a big mess. A better plan might be to call your tire service dealer and have him come to you and lower the freezing temp of your solution .
 
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...and for those of you not yet in this pickle, Rim Guard does not freeze until about -45F, is 11lbs/gallon and is certified as cattle food and is not corrosive. About every other fluid ballast has some issues. Methanol is light, CaCl is corrosive, anti-freeze will kill your dog if he drinks it.

No real downside to Rim Guard except not every dealer sells it and it is moderately expensive. A lot of the expense is that this is not some sort of powder that gets mixed. It arrives at the dealer in a big tanker truck, so the trucking expense adds to the cost.
 
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The tire says tubeless, thats why I assume it's not damaging the tire running it around the property. I've ordered a bead breaker and plan on dumping at least 5 gallons of antifreeze in each tire. Hopefully that'll take care of the freezing problems.

You need this. Air/Liquid Adapter Kit | GEMPLER'S
 
   / Mixing CaCl and Antifreeze #9  
First year with this tractor and winter has showed that he fluid in the tires is not correct for the colder climates in central IL. I have two frozen chunks in the rear and it's making for a rough ride. The tires are tubeless as far as I know, no ill effects of running on the ice so far, tubes I assume would have punctured or cut by now.

Question is: Can I mix Calcium Chloride (assuming there is some in the tire) and antifreeze?
The tire says tubeless, thats why I assume it's not damaging the tire running it around the property. I've ordered a bead breaker and plan on dumping at least 5 gallons of antifreeze in each tire. Hopefully that'll take care of the freezing problems.
... Im still trying to figure out why you asked in the 1st place.
 
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SpyderLK, I was curious if there was any ill effects of mixing the two together. That was the main objective of the question.

With the thing frozen I couldn't tell what was being used in the tire, CaCl or something else. If there was someone that had mixed the two before and reported a problem I would have went a different route to correct the problem.
 
 
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