ChinaSailor
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Morning Gentlemen,
Perhaps some of you will be able to help me with my JD2210 as the local Green Dealer has been unsuccessful, though they made lots of money on service-calls.
First, I love the JD2210, have had it for 11 years, it has been amazing in what it has accomplished, and I've recommended it to one and all where appropriate.
Problem: Over a year ago the 2210 from time to time just wouldn't start. It would crank fine but since no smoke was coming from the exhaust it was apparent that no fuel was getting to the cylinders. So the reasoning was that perhaps it was possibly electrical, ie; pump/injection not getting juice to operate or perhaps it was mechanical where the pump was worn out and not getting diesel to the heads.
(If it was both cranking fine AND smoke was coming from the exhaust but still not starting then at least I would know that the injection, pump, etc etc was working fine then that would lead me to find the problem elsewhere). had to be elsewhere).
The machine would work fine for a coupla weeks and months and then the problem would arise out of the blue, no rhyme or reason and I could not duplicate it. A few days would pass and I would try starting it once or twice a day, and then miraculously it would just start up and run as if there was never a problem. It would then run for days, weeks, months (or not) and then the next time I went to use it, it wouldnt start. Sometimes this was pretty dangerous since I have long and narrow slopes with grades upwards of 45 degrees that I have to work on.
Anyhow, the machine was put into the JD shop at least 4 or 5 times with almost $2k spent, but not resolution. They began a costly "if in doubt swap it out" program, which did not fix anything.
HOWEVER, after working all Spring with no problem the tractor wouldnt start yesterday! Today I began trying to see if I could find anything that be wrong, and began turning it over, waiting for a while, and turning it over again and I noticed that even when the tractor's brake was NOT engaged and I was NOT sitting on the seat for the sensor to be engaged that the tractor was STILL turning over!!!
Normally when you are trying to start the tractor and not sitting on the seat BOTH the transmission must be in the neutral position AND the brake needs to be set, if not then the tractor will not even try to start as no electrical power will be sent to the starter.
So when I noticed this it was like EUREKA! I now found an inconsistency - the tractor should not even try to be turning over but it is! So perhaps there is a short somewhere which is allowing electrical power to get to the starter, BUT working enough by not allowing the pump to work in getting diesel to the cylinders!
Question: Besides calling JD for a 5th or 6th service call and another $500. minimum is there anything that I can do here such as bypassing an electrical circuit that controls the "cut off" or something...
I need to get the tractor out of the garage and at least cut the 3 acres of grass...
Thanks for any and all help...
Regards,
Mike
Perhaps some of you will be able to help me with my JD2210 as the local Green Dealer has been unsuccessful, though they made lots of money on service-calls.
First, I love the JD2210, have had it for 11 years, it has been amazing in what it has accomplished, and I've recommended it to one and all where appropriate.
Problem: Over a year ago the 2210 from time to time just wouldn't start. It would crank fine but since no smoke was coming from the exhaust it was apparent that no fuel was getting to the cylinders. So the reasoning was that perhaps it was possibly electrical, ie; pump/injection not getting juice to operate or perhaps it was mechanical where the pump was worn out and not getting diesel to the heads.
(If it was both cranking fine AND smoke was coming from the exhaust but still not starting then at least I would know that the injection, pump, etc etc was working fine then that would lead me to find the problem elsewhere). had to be elsewhere).
The machine would work fine for a coupla weeks and months and then the problem would arise out of the blue, no rhyme or reason and I could not duplicate it. A few days would pass and I would try starting it once or twice a day, and then miraculously it would just start up and run as if there was never a problem. It would then run for days, weeks, months (or not) and then the next time I went to use it, it wouldnt start. Sometimes this was pretty dangerous since I have long and narrow slopes with grades upwards of 45 degrees that I have to work on.
Anyhow, the machine was put into the JD shop at least 4 or 5 times with almost $2k spent, but not resolution. They began a costly "if in doubt swap it out" program, which did not fix anything.
HOWEVER, after working all Spring with no problem the tractor wouldnt start yesterday! Today I began trying to see if I could find anything that be wrong, and began turning it over, waiting for a while, and turning it over again and I noticed that even when the tractor's brake was NOT engaged and I was NOT sitting on the seat for the sensor to be engaged that the tractor was STILL turning over!!!
Normally when you are trying to start the tractor and not sitting on the seat BOTH the transmission must be in the neutral position AND the brake needs to be set, if not then the tractor will not even try to start as no electrical power will be sent to the starter.
So when I noticed this it was like EUREKA! I now found an inconsistency - the tractor should not even try to be turning over but it is! So perhaps there is a short somewhere which is allowing electrical power to get to the starter, BUT working enough by not allowing the pump to work in getting diesel to the cylinders!
Question: Besides calling JD for a 5th or 6th service call and another $500. minimum is there anything that I can do here such as bypassing an electrical circuit that controls the "cut off" or something...
I need to get the tractor out of the garage and at least cut the 3 acres of grass...
Thanks for any and all help...
Regards,
Mike
