nwut05
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Hello . It's a long post but i had to tell the story for you to understand...
FIRST AND FOREMOST........ I want to say that i am not and will not.. dealer bash or bad mouth...and if you happen to read this post and know of the situation please, Do not mention the dealer or the people that are involved. THEY have all been great at trying to fix my tractors problem THANK"S
I need some other opinions...... I recently purchased a brand new Workmaster 50. I took delivery late June. they unloaded the tractor and i got on it and drove it around the farm. the next day i hooked a bushog (5") up to it and started bushogging. And occasionally i would need to move the loader up and down to miss obstacles or just push a bush or something out of the way. About 2 hours into this i noticed that if i moved the loader up and down the thing would vibrate/stutter shake and in general seem to have air in the hydraulics. So i called the dealer and spoke with the service manager, he said it was air and it should work out of the system with use and if it didn't to call him back. So i continued to use the tractor that day and it did not get any better, so with this problem in mind i decided to move some dirt the next day. i started early and after just a few minuets the problem appeared again. So i called the service manager back and he immediately said well the problem is the hydraulic pump we will come get it and fix it for you. In the mean time i had hay down and needed to bale with the tractor so he said sure use it, he had to order the pump anyway just be careful with the loader and the 3 point and all should be fine, the pump was bad anyway i couldn't hurt anything on the tractor. so i did bale with it and about a week later they came got the tractor. This was on a Friday evening, Monday morning they called and said the tractor was fixed and they would bring it back Thursday if that was OK. So they brought it back Thursday evening and it was just before a monsoon rain hit and it rained all day Friday.So Saturday was clear and i again hooked the bushhog up and away i went . i had been at it about 10 minuets when the same problem appeared again but with a vengeance this time...worse that before...so i put the machine in the barn and waited til Monday. I called dealer the following Monday and again spoke with the service manager. he said he would send a truck out and get it again and bring it in to fix it again. they came got it that Tuesday. The next day the service manager called and said they could not get the tractor to do anything and asked me to stop by. so I went over that afternoon and after about 2 minuets on the tractor it started having the same symptoms. They said they would get in contact with new holland and get a fix suggestion?
So a week later the service manager called me and said we have your tractor fixed. and wanted to bring it back the following Monday. At this point i told him i would come to him and test the tractor before i took delivery again. So Monday came and i went over and met with the service manager and a technician. they told me new holland had suggested them replacing the hydraulic filter and if need be the hydraulic filter housing. So i went out to the yard and got on the tractor, Started it up and after about 10 cycles up and down on the loader and three point it started vibrating bucking again. So i turned the tractor off and said now what ? the service manager said to me, Well new holland suggests we replace the filter housing, Do you want us to do that? You guessed my answer:thumbsup: so after a few days i got another call that said we got it fixed this time...... come test it. So i went over to the shop and got on the tractor and You also guessed this too, after a few cycles up and down it was still doing the vibrating/bucking/stuttering. So at this point I got a little ....lets say dissapointed......and went straight to the dealer/owner...who came out and got on the tractor and seen what it was doing......he said we would get it fixed...whatever it took.......so the next day they called again and said look we have replaced the hydraulic pump, filter, filter housing, loader valve, 3 point valve, basically everything in the hydraulic system is new except the hoses. Please come try it again. SO again i went over that evening and got on the tractor with the service manager and a technician watching, Guess What:mur:.....YUP!!!did it again.... They were astonished dumbfounded:irked: and outright just confused.:confused2: So instead of getting mad i just shut the tractor off and asked them is there anything you guys can think of that you can do to fix this. There Reply to me was we have done all we know to do..... so i went and spoke to the owner/dealer again and the service manager went with me and during that conversation we had the discussion about the service manager trying one more time to fix it and extended warranties and possible replacement unit.....I wasn't sure what to do but, what the heck take a look i told the service manager... So that evening, LATE...... that evening after the dealers normal closing time I get a call telling me my tractor is fixed and to come over the next day and try it . So again the next day i go over and guess what The tractor works flawlessly When i ask what they done the reply i got was we adjusted the sensitivity of the three point linkage, It was set wrong from the factory.....:scratchchin:
So here is my Question? If this was such a simple fix by just adjusting the three point sensitivity linkage on the top link. Why did it take so long of them working with it, and then telling me they done all they knew to do. And does anyone know if this is a true fix, or am getting the old Barney Fife, sawdust in the tranny fix just to get me to accept the tractor back???:confused3:
FIRST AND FOREMOST........ I want to say that i am not and will not.. dealer bash or bad mouth...and if you happen to read this post and know of the situation please, Do not mention the dealer or the people that are involved. THEY have all been great at trying to fix my tractors problem THANK"S
I need some other opinions...... I recently purchased a brand new Workmaster 50. I took delivery late June. they unloaded the tractor and i got on it and drove it around the farm. the next day i hooked a bushog (5") up to it and started bushogging. And occasionally i would need to move the loader up and down to miss obstacles or just push a bush or something out of the way. About 2 hours into this i noticed that if i moved the loader up and down the thing would vibrate/stutter shake and in general seem to have air in the hydraulics. So i called the dealer and spoke with the service manager, he said it was air and it should work out of the system with use and if it didn't to call him back. So i continued to use the tractor that day and it did not get any better, so with this problem in mind i decided to move some dirt the next day. i started early and after just a few minuets the problem appeared again. So i called the service manager back and he immediately said well the problem is the hydraulic pump we will come get it and fix it for you. In the mean time i had hay down and needed to bale with the tractor so he said sure use it, he had to order the pump anyway just be careful with the loader and the 3 point and all should be fine, the pump was bad anyway i couldn't hurt anything on the tractor. so i did bale with it and about a week later they came got the tractor. This was on a Friday evening, Monday morning they called and said the tractor was fixed and they would bring it back Thursday if that was OK. So they brought it back Thursday evening and it was just before a monsoon rain hit and it rained all day Friday.So Saturday was clear and i again hooked the bushhog up and away i went . i had been at it about 10 minuets when the same problem appeared again but with a vengeance this time...worse that before...so i put the machine in the barn and waited til Monday. I called dealer the following Monday and again spoke with the service manager. he said he would send a truck out and get it again and bring it in to fix it again. they came got it that Tuesday. The next day the service manager called and said they could not get the tractor to do anything and asked me to stop by. so I went over that afternoon and after about 2 minuets on the tractor it started having the same symptoms. They said they would get in contact with new holland and get a fix suggestion?
So a week later the service manager called me and said we have your tractor fixed. and wanted to bring it back the following Monday. At this point i told him i would come to him and test the tractor before i took delivery again. So Monday came and i went over and met with the service manager and a technician. they told me new holland had suggested them replacing the hydraulic filter and if need be the hydraulic filter housing. So i went out to the yard and got on the tractor, Started it up and after about 10 cycles up and down on the loader and three point it started vibrating bucking again. So i turned the tractor off and said now what ? the service manager said to me, Well new holland suggests we replace the filter housing, Do you want us to do that? You guessed my answer:thumbsup: so after a few days i got another call that said we got it fixed this time...... come test it. So i went over to the shop and got on the tractor and You also guessed this too, after a few cycles up and down it was still doing the vibrating/bucking/stuttering. So at this point I got a little ....lets say dissapointed......and went straight to the dealer/owner...who came out and got on the tractor and seen what it was doing......he said we would get it fixed...whatever it took.......so the next day they called again and said look we have replaced the hydraulic pump, filter, filter housing, loader valve, 3 point valve, basically everything in the hydraulic system is new except the hoses. Please come try it again. SO again i went over that evening and got on the tractor with the service manager and a technician watching, Guess What:mur:.....YUP!!!did it again.... They were astonished dumbfounded:irked: and outright just confused.:confused2: So instead of getting mad i just shut the tractor off and asked them is there anything you guys can think of that you can do to fix this. There Reply to me was we have done all we know to do..... so i went and spoke to the owner/dealer again and the service manager went with me and during that conversation we had the discussion about the service manager trying one more time to fix it and extended warranties and possible replacement unit.....I wasn't sure what to do but, what the heck take a look i told the service manager... So that evening, LATE...... that evening after the dealers normal closing time I get a call telling me my tractor is fixed and to come over the next day and try it . So again the next day i go over and guess what The tractor works flawlessly When i ask what they done the reply i got was we adjusted the sensitivity of the three point linkage, It was set wrong from the factory.....:scratchchin:
So here is my Question? If this was such a simple fix by just adjusting the three point sensitivity linkage on the top link. Why did it take so long of them working with it, and then telling me they done all they knew to do. And does anyone know if this is a true fix, or am getting the old Barney Fife, sawdust in the tranny fix just to get me to accept the tractor back???:confused3:
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