MESSMAKER
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I am hearing more and more about the dangers of the chemical agent in Round-Up. I use it quite a bit both at work and home. Any thoughts?
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riptides
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Hasn't changed my application of it. I use it to a minimum of twice a year on about a mile of fence line. Jury is still out for me.
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Monsanto would never do anything to hurt you.
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read it is the other ingredients that are being looked into more recently
New Evidence About the Dangers of Monsanto’s Roundup
Found this disturbing :
“It took around one year and three people (a specialist in pesticide toxicology, a specialist of chemical mixtures, and a specialist in mass spectrometry) to unravel the secrets of Monsanto’s Roundup formulations,” Mesnage explained in an email. The hard work paid off. In 2013, his team was able not only to deduce the chemical structure of additives in six of the nine formulations but also to show that each of these supposedly inert ingredients was more toxic than glyphosate alone.
and ... in February, the team published its findings, which showed that each of the five co-formulants affected the function of both the mitochondria in human placental cells and aromatase, an enzyme that affects sexual development. Not only did these chemicals, which aren’t named on herbicide labels, affect biological functions, they did so at levels far below the concentrations used in commercially available products. In fact, POEA — officially an “inert” ingredient — was between 1,200 and 2,000 times more toxic to cells than glyphosate, officially the “active” ingredient.
I have some roundup still , but haven't used any in a while- Have More weeds growing again to.
New Evidence About the Dangers of Monsanto’s Roundup
Found this disturbing :
“It took around one year and three people (a specialist in pesticide toxicology, a specialist of chemical mixtures, and a specialist in mass spectrometry) to unravel the secrets of Monsanto’s Roundup formulations,” Mesnage explained in an email. The hard work paid off. In 2013, his team was able not only to deduce the chemical structure of additives in six of the nine formulations but also to show that each of these supposedly inert ingredients was more toxic than glyphosate alone.
and ... in February, the team published its findings, which showed that each of the five co-formulants affected the function of both the mitochondria in human placental cells and aromatase, an enzyme that affects sexual development. Not only did these chemicals, which aren’t named on herbicide labels, affect biological functions, they did so at levels far below the concentrations used in commercially available products. In fact, POEA — officially an “inert” ingredient — was between 1,200 and 2,000 times more toxic to cells than glyphosate, officially the “active” ingredient.
I have some roundup still , but haven't used any in a while- Have More weeds growing again to.
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How many follow prudent application suggestions?
Long sleeve shirt. Long pants. Gloves. Hat. Safety glasses.
Wash all clothes at days end. Do not wear a second day.
No smoking while spraying. No eating while spraying.
Bathe ASAP after spraying.
Long sleeve shirt. Long pants. Gloves. Hat. Safety glasses.
Wash all clothes at days end. Do not wear a second day.
No smoking while spraying. No eating while spraying.
Bathe ASAP after spraying.
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I had never used Weed Killers except for spot treatment on Poison Oak.
Back in 1991 there was the Oakland Fire Storm which consumed 3000+ homes and within a year the city said acreage 4000 square foot lot would all be treated the same...
We have acreage and very rugged at that plus poison oak flourishes here... the only way to meet the city requirements was to be aggressive with weed killer...
I started buying multiple 2.5 gallon jugs of Round Up Quick Pro and it worked well... so well that it became the standard to pass inspection even though the city practically bans herbicide use...
This year I didn't use it and have problems... spent about 20 days of Saturday and Sunday with my commercial string trimmer... did 3 cutting and it needs to be cut again...
Took several tumbles down the hillside and twisted my ankle... just not going to be able to do manual cutting... goats are an option at 3k per acre... it is what the city uses but they have lots of money.
We have been 5 generations here and never a problem... yet one problem anywhere and all the rules change for everybody.
Back in 1991 there was the Oakland Fire Storm which consumed 3000+ homes and within a year the city said acreage 4000 square foot lot would all be treated the same...
We have acreage and very rugged at that plus poison oak flourishes here... the only way to meet the city requirements was to be aggressive with weed killer...
I started buying multiple 2.5 gallon jugs of Round Up Quick Pro and it worked well... so well that it became the standard to pass inspection even though the city practically bans herbicide use...
This year I didn't use it and have problems... spent about 20 days of Saturday and Sunday with my commercial string trimmer... did 3 cutting and it needs to be cut again...
Took several tumbles down the hillside and twisted my ankle... just not going to be able to do manual cutting... goats are an option at 3k per acre... it is what the city uses but they have lots of money.
We have been 5 generations here and never a problem... yet one problem anywhere and all the rules change for everybody.
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All of the above always and I don't smoke... also double wash clothes.
tcreeley
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Toxic- I never use it. As if Monsanto and the others don't care more about money than anything else. They'd sell you cyanide if they thought there was something in it for them.
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As mentioned... I have been forced to adapt to comply with the law and there is nothing I can do short of selling the family homestead to transfer responsibility compliance...
Spaying is like magic... the Oaks thrive and the brush and grass disappear which is all the fire inspectors care about...
Spending 25k a year on goats is never going to happen... plus, I can't keep goats... they are only allowed temporarily for fire suppression...
I do maintain fire trails and bought a dozer to put them in which is a topic for another thread...
Without chemical herbicide it would be an impossible task... especially with the record rainfall this year...
Signed... looking for an alternative and still be legal...
By the way, the city owns much of the similar acreage and even some that had been in my family... the city is exempt from penalties from non-compliance.
Spaying is like magic... the Oaks thrive and the brush and grass disappear which is all the fire inspectors care about...
Spending 25k a year on goats is never going to happen... plus, I can't keep goats... they are only allowed temporarily for fire suppression...
I do maintain fire trails and bought a dozer to put them in which is a topic for another thread...
Without chemical herbicide it would be an impossible task... especially with the record rainfall this year...
Signed... looking for an alternative and still be legal...
By the way, the city owns much of the similar acreage and even some that had been in my family... the city is exempt from penalties from non-compliance.
rekees4300
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My thoughts are that it's a carcinogen. Use at your own risk.