Can it do it? Disc and hay grapple

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CDennyRun

CDennyRun

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Hey folks! Long time no post. I recently bought a Kubota grand L5030 (45 PTO hp 50 @ the engine), 4x4 with loader, R 4's and the rear tires are ballasted with Calcium.. weighing in at around 6500lbs I'm guessing.

My questions are: Do you think it could pull an 8' disc? The R 4's leave me questioning that I can. Also I'd like to build a 8-bale hay grapple for it.. would that be too much for the loader? I know I would probably need more ballast. I don't know what the loader can handle that far out. Lift to full height @ 500mm is 1764lbs.

I was just wondering if anyone else with a similar sized/weighted tractor has done the things I'm hoping to with this tractor.

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Chris
 
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I have a NH Workmaster 60 that's 1,000 lbs heavier bare tractor. All else is the same, loader, & R4's filled. I have a set of Taylor way 8' with 20" disk and pull it no problem. Seeing you have 4x4 I think you would be fine. I will say I think without some type of attachment on the loader (simple bucket) I think you will need some front ballast weights if you plan to disk without the loader or an attachment. I did some with nothing on my loader this week and noticed I was a little light in the front, fine for where I was, but I wouldn't want to hit the road to my destination like that.
 
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NICE TRACTOR.

The key metric for Disc Harrow function is total implement weight bearing on each disc/pan. Disc Harrow weight is primarily a function of pan diameter. So you need to prioritize/settle on pan diameter first, then Disc Harrow width.

You can comfortably pull a Tandem Disc Harrow with 22" diameter pans (1,300 to 1,900 pounds/8'), with your L5030. Traction will not be an issue with 22" diameter pans/8' width and your L5030 setup.

As Disc Harrow is weight cantilevered far behind the tractor, it makes excellent counterbalance to FEL loads, if you have plenty of maneuvering space for a very long grapple/tractor/Disc unit.

MORE: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/332493-tandem-lift-disc-harow-monroe.html?highlight=

YET MORE: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/308251-disc-harrow-selection-18-45-a.html?highlight=


What specific tasks do you contemplate for your Disc Harrow?


(Your response has been limited because your thread title is confusing.)
(Better: Need Advice: Disc Harrow & Grapple For Kubota L5030)
 
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I think my MF could handle it the grapple and it'd only 10 hp more than yours. I'd probably spike a 4x5 round bale on the back, for ballast. Can't say about the disc.
 
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Awesome! Thank you very much for the info. I plan on keeping the loader attached while doing this.. you just never know when you're going to need it to move a fallen branch or rock while tilling.

Much appreciated!

Regards,

Chris
 
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Thanks Jeff! This is all good information. I really don't know much about tillage equipment, so again.. thank you!
 
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Awesome, thanks! Your Massey is definitely built heavier than my Kubota. I plan on adding some ballast to the rear, maybe my brush hog. If that's not enough, I can get creative! Ha ha
 
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If you are just moving the hay a very short distance you will most likely be fine, hard to say not knowing the weight. But I move 900-1100 pound 4x5 round bales with mine with nothing on the rear if just a short distance. Like you my rears are filled. Just keep the hay low and speed slow with nothing on the rear. But I would say a rear ballast wether it's a decent sized implement, spiked round bales, or ballast box or drum filled of some sort will make life much nicer when handling hay on the FEL.
 
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BMan2005 said:
If you are just moving the hay a very short distance you will most likely be fine, hard to say not knowing the weight. But I move 900-1100 pound 4x5 round bales with mine with nothing on the rear if just a short distance. Like you my rears are filled. Just keep the hay low and speed slow with nothing on the rear. But I would say a rear ballast wether it's a decent sized implement, spiked round bales, or ballast box or drum filled of some sort will make life much nicer when handling hay on the FEL.
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Thanks BMan2005! Since I'm mostly a one man hay operation, I would be driving through the field loaded with 8 bales to where ever my truck/trailer is located at the time. Most of my fields are small, around 5 acres so it shouldn't be too big of a deal. I figure the accumulator loaded with bales will probably weigh about a total of 800lbs, so that's not a big deal, it's just the overall length will be just over 7ft from the pin. It would be great if I don't need balast though!
 
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Just remember the farther out the weight the more you'll notice it. You'll know the first time you lift it. Haha

If you need a ballast though and don't want anything bulky behind you just buy you a ballast box or make one. I needed one for when I'm cleaning hay out the barn and clearing the fire breaks around the property. Here's a thread I had looking for ideas on mine. Cat fever has a really nice one on there.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/385776-concrete-barrel-ballast-box-idea.html

Good luck man and enjoy it! Not sure how I went this long without a FEL around here.
 
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