cfb
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- May 5, 2012
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- Cleveland, Ohio
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- 1949 Ford 8N, Ingersoll 448, Ford 16HP Diesel
Hello All,
I was happy to get spark in all four plugs. Then went to the fuel. No fuel was going from the sediment bowl assembly into the fuel line. I took it out and drained the old gas. I guess it had that dreaded kerosene small I read others having. I took the bowl and filter off and the entry hole was plugged solid. The top filter that goes into the tank may have been home made as it was soldered shut at the top so I could not see inside as I suspected that entry area was plugged to. So, since I could not get to it, I decided to buy a new fuel assembly. And I decided to buy a new fuel line too as the old one was modified to install a small in-line filter which I read is a no-no.
Although it was not the web site company I bought from, the parts came from Atlantic Quality Parts. The bowl assembly was part 1103-3397 which replaced 2N9155B. The fuel line was part 1103-3430 which replaced 9N9282A. The top filter that goes into the tank was about an inch or so and open at the top with a center"pipe". It did not look perforated as I was expecting but maybe it is just very tiny for me to detect. Anyway, it screwed into the tank. I used a little of the yellow tape I read was recommended. It did not seem to screw in as far as the one I took out, but lined up okay and did not leak.
I connected the fuel line next. I tried my best, but just did not seem to get it lined up correctly at the assembly. The end fitting just did not seem to want to screw in easily. Well, I ended up stripping the inside of the assembly, so I'll be buying a new one of those, but leave that aside for now for this discussion. It screwed in very easy at the carb into that elbow piece. So then I added gas - this was before I stripped the inside thread in the assy and it was leaking. The valve stem of the assy did not seem to work right. It was hard to turn and when I had it all screwed in tight it did not stop the flow as I thought it should have. That is when I started to play around and ruin the inside threads. The threads of the pipe fitting seem fine as it must be harder metal - perhaps that is my design.
1. When I added gas to see the bowl fill up, I did not have to add much gas before it started to fill, less for sure than the reserve gallon, which sort of confirmed that the assy did not screw in very far, but I could maybe go a quarter turn more but then it would not be aligned. So I added gas to get the pressure up to push through the pipe. So I disconnected the pipe at the carb to see nice flowing gas there. But the end at the assy was leaking.
2. The fuel pipe, by the way, goes up slightly after the assembly before going across the engine and down into the carb - is that up slope correct?
3. I mentioned above that the valve stem did not stop the flow. Should it have and I really had a faulty unit? I tried to pull the step out like I did on the old assy but it would not screw out after I loosened the plug. That seemed odd too - would you all agree?
4. Then I took out the plug at the bottom of the carb ( after I reconnected the fuel line at the elbow) - no flow. I turned the engine on to pulled the choke thinking that would file the carb - not sure if that exercise would or not, but still no flow out the bottom. I did earlier that out that elbow and that inside filter was very clean.
I'd appreciate you comments above both on that valve assy and that stem not stopping the flow, and if there is a trick to getting the pipe fitting to thread properly into the assembly unit. Does not flow out the bottom of the carb mean the carb is clogged? is this something I can clean out myself or should I be looking at replacing it?
You should no too that it was running in the past, but I probably left the gas sit much too long as I did not have oil pressure and did not have time to address that until now.
thank you for your responses/help in advance. cfb
I was happy to get spark in all four plugs. Then went to the fuel. No fuel was going from the sediment bowl assembly into the fuel line. I took it out and drained the old gas. I guess it had that dreaded kerosene small I read others having. I took the bowl and filter off and the entry hole was plugged solid. The top filter that goes into the tank may have been home made as it was soldered shut at the top so I could not see inside as I suspected that entry area was plugged to. So, since I could not get to it, I decided to buy a new fuel assembly. And I decided to buy a new fuel line too as the old one was modified to install a small in-line filter which I read is a no-no.
Although it was not the web site company I bought from, the parts came from Atlantic Quality Parts. The bowl assembly was part 1103-3397 which replaced 2N9155B. The fuel line was part 1103-3430 which replaced 9N9282A. The top filter that goes into the tank was about an inch or so and open at the top with a center"pipe". It did not look perforated as I was expecting but maybe it is just very tiny for me to detect. Anyway, it screwed into the tank. I used a little of the yellow tape I read was recommended. It did not seem to screw in as far as the one I took out, but lined up okay and did not leak.
I connected the fuel line next. I tried my best, but just did not seem to get it lined up correctly at the assembly. The end fitting just did not seem to want to screw in easily. Well, I ended up stripping the inside of the assembly, so I'll be buying a new one of those, but leave that aside for now for this discussion. It screwed in very easy at the carb into that elbow piece. So then I added gas - this was before I stripped the inside thread in the assy and it was leaking. The valve stem of the assy did not seem to work right. It was hard to turn and when I had it all screwed in tight it did not stop the flow as I thought it should have. That is when I started to play around and ruin the inside threads. The threads of the pipe fitting seem fine as it must be harder metal - perhaps that is my design.
1. When I added gas to see the bowl fill up, I did not have to add much gas before it started to fill, less for sure than the reserve gallon, which sort of confirmed that the assy did not screw in very far, but I could maybe go a quarter turn more but then it would not be aligned. So I added gas to get the pressure up to push through the pipe. So I disconnected the pipe at the carb to see nice flowing gas there. But the end at the assy was leaking.
2. The fuel pipe, by the way, goes up slightly after the assembly before going across the engine and down into the carb - is that up slope correct?
3. I mentioned above that the valve stem did not stop the flow. Should it have and I really had a faulty unit? I tried to pull the step out like I did on the old assy but it would not screw out after I loosened the plug. That seemed odd too - would you all agree?
4. Then I took out the plug at the bottom of the carb ( after I reconnected the fuel line at the elbow) - no flow. I turned the engine on to pulled the choke thinking that would file the carb - not sure if that exercise would or not, but still no flow out the bottom. I did earlier that out that elbow and that inside filter was very clean.
I'd appreciate you comments above both on that valve assy and that stem not stopping the flow, and if there is a trick to getting the pipe fitting to thread properly into the assembly unit. Does not flow out the bottom of the carb mean the carb is clogged? is this something I can clean out myself or should I be looking at replacing it?
You should no too that it was running in the past, but I probably left the gas sit much too long as I did not have oil pressure and did not have time to address that until now.
thank you for your responses/help in advance. cfb