Inovative anti-theft ideas?

woodlandfarms · 02-11-2007, 05:41 PM

It is the old addage, if they want something they will figure a way to take it. Wondering what ideas people have come up with to keep their tractor and implements around when you don't have the luxury of a locking barn..

witel · 02-11-2007, 05:49 PM

I am curious, too ... especially considering the common keys for tractors.

There are a few similar threads ... if you do a search ... , but I haven't seen anything that appears effective outside of locking your tractor and implements in a garage/barn. Hidden kill-switch?

DieselPower · 02-11-2007, 06:00 PM

Take off the wheels and put it on jack stands.

Seriously though, there are a couple of thing's you could probably do.

Like WiTel said, a kill switch to disable the ignition/starting system.

You could install a hidden fuel cut off valve.

When I was in the Army all of the vehicles had a chain welded to the floor or steering column. When not in use the chain was looped through the steering wheel and then you put a padlock on it. It prevents you from being able to steer it.

You could get a aftermarket ignition switch with a "real" key. You would have to rewire your switch but it would be better than the one key fit's all ignition switch.

You could install a hard wired alarm system on it. Basically run a wire from your house/barn to the tractor. The wire would be hooked to a 12 volt power source through a relay and when the wire is disconnected from the tractor it set's off a buzzer/siren/alarm in the house.

Let your imagination run wild.

JRobyn · 02-11-2007, 06:00 PM

I think about all you can really do is implement some common-sense measures, insure, and pray! I keep mine in a very inaccessable place on the back of the property behind two locked gates and locked to a large tree with a heavy cable. My neighbors watch out for any unusual activity or unknown persons on or around my property or the entire neighborhood since I can't be there as much as I'd like. I've thought about a game camera, but it would have to be infrared (not cheap for a decent one) to have any chance of not being detected and smashed or also stolen. I know that despite almost anything I do, a determined thief could make off with it. So that's where the insurance comes in (inland marine).

MossRoad · 02-12-2007, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by woodlandfarms

It is the old addage, if they want something they will figure a way to take it. Wondering what ideas people have come up with to keep their tractor and implements around when you don't have the luxury of a locking barn..

On my gas engine in my old IH I would take the battery and rotor home with me every night. The geniuses would try and put a battery in it and start it but not many of them carried a rotor for a late 70's IH 200C gas engine.

jpm · 02-12-2007, 09:37 AM

i lot of people think buddy works real well,certanly after he put his head though a closed car window at the local lumbar yard

nobody wants to take a chanch.also he dosn't make a sound coming up in stalk mode

slowrev · 02-12-2007, 10:05 AM

My old IH does not have a common tractor key switch, it has a unique key.
Sure they can cross over the solenoid and crank it, but with the anti dieseling solenoid and electric fuel pump, it would be a bit difficult to hot wire.
It also spends it's resting time locked in a shed.

Soundguy · 02-12-2007, 10:21 AM

Slowrev.. a few gator clip wires and you can almost hotwire anything.

I like the idea of removing the rotor button on the gasser's.. neat trick.. way better than a kill switch that is SUPER easy to bypass.

inthe end.. unless you are standing there with a gun.. someone will get your stuff if they want it.

A horse farm near me just had someone pull off the interstate.. cut the wire fence by the interstate, cut the back fenc e onthe horse farm, and come in and load up horses into a trailer, and a couple tractors from a barn, and high tail it back to the interstate, leaving the fence open and the rest of the horses to get out.

nice people..

Soundguy

swines · 02-12-2007, 10:23 AM

Take out the starter relay. On my tractor that takes about 30 seconds as it's located in the fuse panel. With the FEL on the ground + an implement in the back on the ground - if you can't start the tractor to use the hydraulics, it's pretty difficult to move.

daTeacha · 02-12-2007, 11:43 AM

JPM -- what is Buddy, anyways? He kind of looks like a bullmastiff but I've never seen a black one.

02-11-2007, 05:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
woodlandfarms Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles / SW Washington Posts: 1,310	Inovative anti-theft ideas? It is the old addage, if they want something they will figure a way to take it. Wondering what ideas people have come up with to keep their tractor and implements around when you don't have the luxury of a locking barn..

02-11-2007, 05:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
witel Bronze Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Exactly 5600' in Colorado foothills Posts: 91	Re: Inovative anti-theft ideas? I am curious, too ... especially considering the common keys for tractors. There are a few similar threads ... if you do a search ... , but I haven't seen anything that appears effective outside of locking your tractor and implements in a garage/barn. Hidden kill-switch? __________________ WiTel Currently considering ... Kubota L39 TLB: TL1715 Front Rem-Hyd, BTB404 Rear Rem-Hyd, L9553 Rem-Valves, L9554 TNT, K7770 QA Coupler for BH Bucket, K7874 18" Trenching Bucket, L9475 Drawbar, L9476 Tool Box, L8044 Rear Work Lights, 70000-00297 Block-Heater, Wheel-Weights, No FEL Bucket And, implements: 4N1 FEL Bucket, U25 H-Thumb, H-PHD, Front Blade, Rear Blade, Flail Mower, Spreader, Hopper, Pallet Forks, Chain-Hooks

02-11-2007, 06:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
DieselPower Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fairfield, PA Posts: 2,171	Re: Inovative anti-theft ideas? Take off the wheels and put it on jack stands. Seriously though, there are a couple of thing's you could probably do. Like WiTel said, a kill switch to disable the ignition/starting system. You could install a hidden fuel cut off valve. When I was in the Army all of the vehicles had a chain welded to the floor or steering column. When not in use the chain was looped through the steering wheel and then you put a padlock on it. It prevents you from being able to steer it. You could get a aftermarket ignition switch with a "real" key. You would have to rewire your switch but it would be better than the one key fit's all ignition switch. You could install a hard wired alarm system on it. Basically run a wire from your house/barn to the tractor. The wire would be hooked to a 12 volt power source through a relay and when the wire is disconnected from the tractor it set's off a buzzer/siren/alarm in the house. Let your imagination run wild.

02-11-2007, 06:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
JRobyn Gold Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GA, TN Posts: 380	Re: Inovative anti-theft ideas? I think about all you can really do is implement some common-sense measures, insure, and pray! I keep mine in a very inaccessable place on the back of the property behind two locked gates and locked to a large tree with a heavy cable. My neighbors watch out for any unusual activity or unknown persons on or around my property or the entire neighborhood since I can't be there as much as I'd like. I've thought about a game camera, but it would have to be infrared (not cheap for a decent one) to have any chance of not being detected and smashed or also stolen. I know that despite almost anything I do, a determined thief could make off with it. So that's where the insurance comes in (inland marine).

02-12-2007, 10:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
slowrev Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Goffs Corner, KY Posts: 3,378	Re: Inovative anti-theft ideas? My old IH does not have a common tractor key switch, it has a unique key. Sure they can cross over the solenoid and crank it, but with the anti dieseling solenoid and electric fuel pump, it would be a bit difficult to hot wire. It also spends it's resting time locked in a shed.

02-12-2007, 10:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
Soundguy Super Star Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Central florida Posts: 18,757	Re: Inovative anti-theft ideas? Slowrev.. a few gator clip wires and you can almost hotwire anything. I like the idea of removing the rotor button on the gasser's.. neat trick.. way better than a kill switch that is SUPER easy to bypass. inthe end.. unless you are standing there with a gun.. someone will get your stuff if they want it. A horse farm near me just had someone pull off the interstate.. cut the wire fence by the interstate, cut the back fenc e onthe horse farm, and come in and load up horses into a trailer, and a couple tractors from a barn, and high tail it back to the interstate, leaving the fence open and the rest of the horses to get out. nice people.. Soundguy

02-12-2007, 10:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
swines Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 261	Re: Inovative anti-theft ideas? Take out the starter relay. On my tractor that takes about 30 seconds as it's located in the fuse panel. With the FEL on the ground + an implement in the back on the ground - if you can't start the tractor to use the hydraulics, it's pretty difficult to move.

02-12-2007, 11:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
daTeacha Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Funk, Ohio Posts: 2,348	Re: Inovative anti-theft ideas? JPM -- what is Buddy, anyways? He kind of looks like a bullmastiff but I've never seen a black one. __________________ Rich 300 hours on the DX29, 850 on the JD 240 and too many to count on the Cadet Funk, Ohio

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