Hi,
I may have mentioned that there was a "cheap" tractor loader hoe just like my old ford for sale. Well, the price was too good to pass up ($1000). Had it delivered on a back haul for way cheap. In the low res ad picture it looked pretty dern shabby. No hood, lots of rust and had a known broken SOS transmission. But, I have a one just like it (model 4140 Heavy Duty Industrial) and thought that for the price it would be a good source of spare parts. It was also 598 miles away, but using the "hauling" section of YTmag.com, I found a person that was able to bring it to me for just a little more than what my estimate of round trip fuel would be. It was more than enough to cover his fuel on that leg, and he was headed this way any how - so good deal all around.
Tractor rolls off of the trailer and first thing I notice is that it has a 3pt lift cover on it (no arms) and a PTO. Unusual for a TLB, but a nice surprise!
Well, I started inspecting the tractor and noticed that the rocker arm cover wasn't fastened. No nuts. The fuel tank (no rust) wasn't bolted down, so I moved it off to the side and took off the rocker cover. This is what I saw.
Close up
Looks like the head was just put together! I sent and e-mail to the seller. He replied that the prior owner did some engine work. But the tractor didn't run. He took off the head to see if the valves were bad. Everything was good. But when he looked at the pistons, they were new. (Nice.) He pulled the pan and a cap and found a new bearing. (Nice)
He then found out from talking to the son of the prior owner that he had rebuilt the engine spending a reputed $1700 but after that it didn't run. It was then parked and the owner eventually died - his son sells the tractor. The guy I bought it from, thinking that the injection pump was bad, he put on good pump. He found that the pump on the tractor was
180 degrees out of phase. His known good pump allowed the engine to start and run with 50 psi of pressure. (Nice)
So, it looks like I have a parts tractor with a newly rebuilt engine that has never been run. The injection pump may or may not be good.
I am now wondering about the SOS. The traction coupling is dis-engaged. Maybe the faulty SOS is just the traction coupling being off? I think I'll drain the trans and see if any chunks fall out (I did find 3 parts of a small (idler??) gear rusted on the floorboard. There is RTV on many of the parts of the SOS so someone was mucking around in there and the shifter is off / apart.
View of the inside of the SOS. You can see it's dirty in there and the filter is missing. It won't get any fluid with no filter!
There are some key missing parts on the tractor, but nothing super major. The backhoe boom has a crack that needs fixing, the cross bracing at the back was next to falling off and a few hoses need replacement. Those will be fixed and I think it will be usable. It feels VERY tight.
Boom crack.
Cross bracing.
This is a side view of the cross brace, you can see it buckled. The buckling was IMHO due to the 4 welds on the cross brace being total horse pucky from the factory. There was about 1/16" of weld and that looked to be a cold weld. They just don't make 'em like they used to - thankfully!
Oh - here's a picture of the silliest thing on the tractor. Apparently, at some point the prior owner had issue with the square head bolts that hold the double bevel wheels to the center hub. Here's his "solution", clever - eh?
.
Interesting point on the tractor is this brass badge.
This may have been a tractor that mech's learned on, or a photo mule or a tractor for wear testing, or???
So, my parts tractor looks to have a freshly rebuilt 172 diesel engine, a front end loader with a couple very slight cracks, a hoe that is TIGHT and a 18" bucket (in need big time of bushings). One man's trash as they say...
jb
I may have mentioned that there was a "cheap" tractor loader hoe just like my old ford for sale. Well, the price was too good to pass up ($1000). Had it delivered on a back haul for way cheap. In the low res ad picture it looked pretty dern shabby. No hood, lots of rust and had a known broken SOS transmission. But, I have a one just like it (model 4140 Heavy Duty Industrial) and thought that for the price it would be a good source of spare parts. It was also 598 miles away, but using the "hauling" section of YTmag.com, I found a person that was able to bring it to me for just a little more than what my estimate of round trip fuel would be. It was more than enough to cover his fuel on that leg, and he was headed this way any how - so good deal all around.
Tractor rolls off of the trailer and first thing I notice is that it has a 3pt lift cover on it (no arms) and a PTO. Unusual for a TLB, but a nice surprise!
Well, I started inspecting the tractor and noticed that the rocker arm cover wasn't fastened. No nuts. The fuel tank (no rust) wasn't bolted down, so I moved it off to the side and took off the rocker cover. This is what I saw.
Close up
Looks like the head was just put together! I sent and e-mail to the seller. He replied that the prior owner did some engine work. But the tractor didn't run. He took off the head to see if the valves were bad. Everything was good. But when he looked at the pistons, they were new. (Nice.) He pulled the pan and a cap and found a new bearing. (Nice)
He then found out from talking to the son of the prior owner that he had rebuilt the engine spending a reputed $1700 but after that it didn't run. It was then parked and the owner eventually died - his son sells the tractor. The guy I bought it from, thinking that the injection pump was bad, he put on good pump. He found that the pump on the tractor was
180 degrees out of phase. His known good pump allowed the engine to start and run with 50 psi of pressure. (Nice)
So, it looks like I have a parts tractor with a newly rebuilt engine that has never been run. The injection pump may or may not be good.
I am now wondering about the SOS. The traction coupling is dis-engaged. Maybe the faulty SOS is just the traction coupling being off? I think I'll drain the trans and see if any chunks fall out (I did find 3 parts of a small (idler??) gear rusted on the floorboard. There is RTV on many of the parts of the SOS so someone was mucking around in there and the shifter is off / apart.
View of the inside of the SOS. You can see it's dirty in there and the filter is missing. It won't get any fluid with no filter!
There are some key missing parts on the tractor, but nothing super major. The backhoe boom has a crack that needs fixing, the cross bracing at the back was next to falling off and a few hoses need replacement. Those will be fixed and I think it will be usable. It feels VERY tight.
Boom crack.
Cross bracing.
This is a side view of the cross brace, you can see it buckled. The buckling was IMHO due to the 4 welds on the cross brace being total horse pucky from the factory. There was about 1/16" of weld and that looked to be a cold weld. They just don't make 'em like they used to - thankfully!
Oh - here's a picture of the silliest thing on the tractor. Apparently, at some point the prior owner had issue with the square head bolts that hold the double bevel wheels to the center hub. Here's his "solution", clever - eh?
Interesting point on the tractor is this brass badge.
This may have been a tractor that mech's learned on, or a photo mule or a tractor for wear testing, or???
So, my parts tractor looks to have a freshly rebuilt 172 diesel engine, a front end loader with a couple very slight cracks, a hoe that is TIGHT and a 18" bucket (in need big time of bushings). One man's trash as they say...
jb