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  1. #11
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    Bolens HT-20

    Default Re: Loose wheel bolts on JD 4400/help please

    Would Lock-Tight work? If it's a vibration thing, that should keep them in place.

  2. #12
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    Default Re: Loose wheel bolts on JD 4400/help please

    I have since put locktite on.
    Thanks

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    Default Re: Loose wheel bolts on JD 4400/help please

    I was at my dealer today to pick up some parts and the shop manager,stopped by and said hello and asked me about the wheels,and we talked a while,I told him I had fixed the problem or at least I thought I had it fixed,that was not good enough for him...he said they were going to figure out why the wheel bolts were coming loose and he and John Deere were going to fix it right,meaning a John Deere solution.I will wait and see,but I have to give this dealership an A+ for effort,from the recepionist clear through parts/service and sales have always been very cordial and friendly and honest with me and on the same token for all of the problems I have had,I never lost my cool with anyone and the shop manager even brought that to my attention,so.....anyway I still feel good about my tractor and John Deere and my friends at the dealer.Would I by another JD tractor....YES I would,I will keep you posted.

  4. #14

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    Default Re: Loose wheel bolts on JD 4400/help please

    Just took delivery on 4410 with R4's. My rear wheels are bolted on with standard head M14 bolts with washers under the heads. But looking at a 4310 with R3's, the rear wheels were bolted on using tapered head bolts and no washers. And when I looked at my wheels, they have the tapered seats to allow the use of tapered head bolts.

    I am wondering if there is any correlation between the type of bolt and the failures folks on TBN are experiencing?


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    Default Re: Loose wheel bolts on JD 4400/help please

    They said they were the right bolts....Same as on the R-4s

  6. #16
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    Default Re: Loose wheel bolts on JD 4400/help please

    01-11-35-05
    Functional Group: 0100
    DTAC Solutions Legacy: LV51480 Web: 51480
    16 November 2001
    John Deere Augusta
    WHEEL DISK TO AXLE BOLTS LOOSEN AND BREAK
    Compact Utility Tractor
    4200C( -426437), 4200H( -421852), 4200E(-429133),
    4300C( -435497), 4300S( -437270), 4300H( -432548), 4300E(-439289),
    4400S( -446531), 4400H( -441883), 4400E(-449424)
    Complaint or Symptom:
    Rear wheel disks to axle bolts loosen and
    break on the following tire sizes:
    11.2-24 4 PR R3 Rear Wheel
    14-17.5 6 PR R4 Rear Wheel
    11.2-24 4 PR R1 Rear Wheel
    15-19.5 6 PR R4 Rear Wheel
    12.4-24 6 PR R1 Rear Wheel
    Problem:
    1. Conical hub bolts loosen during forward
    and reverse cycle or hillside operation.
    2. Loose hub bolts allow disk holes to
    wallow oblong.
    3. Current countersunk holes in disk may
    not provide adequate hub bolt mating
    surface.
    NOTE: Symptoms described above are for
    the flat disk, not coined disk design.
    Solution:
    1. Check for stripped threads. Drill and
    Helicoil axle tapped holes, if necessary.
    2. Replace disk if holes are wallowed.
    3. Replace all original hardware with new
    bolt and flat washer to provide improved
    clamping force.
    4. Remove paint from the axle flange and
    wheel bolt circle mating surfaces.
    5. Replace wheels and tighten wheel to
    axle bolts to 154 N m (114 lb-ft).
    6. Wheel bolts should be clean but not
    oiled. Oil will decrease friction, allow
    more torque and break the bolt.
    Parts:
    16-LVU12708 Bolt (Wheel to Axle)
    16-24M7436 Washer (M14x32x4mm)
    2-Wheel (See Parts Catalog)
    Additional Information:
    Check torque at 10 hour interval for the first
    20 hours. Check torque often during the first
    100 hours.

  7. #17

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    Default Re: Loose wheel bolts on JD 4400/help please

    It does'nt get much better than an "official" DTAC solution.

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