JD 318 Onan backfiring

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portajon

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A search of the archives turned up nothing relevant on the problem with my 198x John Deere 318 w/condenser ignition.

On its first use after several weeks, the tractor started hard but worked fine until it began backfiring during operation. The revs would drop low, there would be no power, it would almost die, and then recover.

Points, condenser and plugs have less than 40 hours on them (about 2 years elapsed time).

The first thing I blamed was the gas, California changes the formulations on a regular basis. We can tell when this happens because my wife's Nissan shows the "Service Soon" light for the first 50 miles after a change.

The tank was pumped dry (using the electric pump added a few years ago to complement the mechanical) and a gallon of fresh gas was added.

Same problem, ran fine except for intermittent periods of low power and backfire popping that lasted up to 30 seconds or so each time.

My son inadvertently refilled with gas for the chainsaw, which is a 1/40 oil mixture and the tractor ran fine.

Next refill was of pure gas, and the loss of power and backfiring episodes started up again.

After adding enough oil to get a 1/40 mixture in the tank the mowing went smoothly, no issues.

As of now am totally confused.

- If the carb mixture was lean, adjusting the choke would help the engine to recover but it makes no difference until pulled out almost all the way and then the engine dies.

- The mixture smells a little rich, and the black coloration of the plugs that were replaced confirms that the mixture leaned towards rich rather than lean. The new plugs don't have heavy discoloration yet, but the mixture has to be on the rich side because no choke is needed to start in summer.

Running will with a 2-stroke mixture seems like a strong clue as to what's wrong, I just don't know how to interpret it.

Can anybody here help me with understanding why a 2-stroke mix burns smoothly but a straight gas gives me such problems?
 
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Can the timing or plug gap be out of it's proper range. Condenser ?:confused:
 
   / JD 318 Onan backfiring #3  
The point setting is critical because it affects timing and how hot the fire is to the plugs. A little dirt in the carburetor can some strange symptoms too. The first thing that I would try would be to get some Sea Foam. Run the engine until it is hot and decarbon it in accordance with the instructions on the can. Sea Foam is available at Walmart and most auto parts stores

Jim
 
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I think you have carbon build up and the carbon is getting hot and igniting the fuel before the plug fires. The reason the 2 stroke oil helps is it makes the fuel less combustible so it doesn't ignite until the plug fires, Seafoam is good at removing carbon.
Bill
 
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#5  
You've given me ideas to pursue.

Thanks
 
 
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