can someone id this backhoe and answer a couple of questions?

[jon1996]

I am looking into trading for this older Backhoe, I know its a ford and the guy said it has sherman power digger on the rear boom, its in good shape and everything works, But I can not find one like it to figure out the model numbers, and I was wanting to know how much is it worth and how much it weighs
Jon

 

[TraderMark]

It looks like an old 801 or 841 with an added loader and backhoe.

If you can get the serial number, I think Soundguy can help you translate the numbers.
He may even be able to tell you where to locate the numbers stamped in the housing.

Mark

 

[jon1996]

Well I thought the same, but it does not have a 3'point hitch and had never had one it is a backhoe but looks like a tractor I have it narrowed down to one of the 60's industrial backhoes a 3550 looks close I thought but it's not this one has 13x28 tires on it as to where the 3550 has 24" tires so I have no idea

 

[RickB]

Well I thought the same, but it does not have a 3'point hitch and had never had one it is a backhoe but looks like a tractor I have it narrowed down to one of the 60's industrial backhoes a 3550 looks close I thought but it's not this one has 13x28 tires on it as to where the 3550 has 24" tires so I have no idea

You aren't even close in thinking it is a 3550. For starters, a 3550 has a 3 cylinder engine and wet brakes and is more than a decade newer than the tractor in the photo. The photo appears to be of an 801 series tractor.

 

[jon1996]

ok then I am wrong heres what the guy told me over the phone

Its in the 60's
its a 4cyl gas engine
Has sherman Digger on rear backhoe arm
28" rear tires
has three headlights in front one larger one in the center

Thats all I know about it
Thanks,
jon

 

[RobertBrown]

ok then I am wrong heres what the guy told me over the phone

Its in the 60's
its a 4cyl gas engine
Has sherman Digger on rear backhoe arm
28" rear tires
has three headlights in front one larger one in the center

Thats all I know about it
Thanks,
jon

It looks just like my neighbors IH, post some more pictures. I think it's a 3414. His has no pto and no 3pt hitch, just a loader.... 2wd.
http://www.tractordata.com/industrial-tractors/000/0/6/60-international-harvester-3414.html

 

[aczlan]

Some pictures:
Ford 801: Ford 800 Tractor/Backhoe for sale
Ford 4000 (Note the different backhoe boom design): http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/ford-vintage-tractors/30136-ford-4000-tractor-loader-backhoe.html
Ford 3400 (note the different grill and backhoe boom): FORD TRACTOR / LOADER / BACKHOE | Belton | eBay Classifieds (Kijiji) | 12675116
Ford 800 (note the different backhoe boom and similar grill): Johnny King Auctioneers Gallery :: Farm/Const/Landscape Equipment :: Ford_800_series_Tractor_with_Loader_and_Backhoe
IH 3414: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/case-ih/142043-international-3414-restoration.html

Looks most like a Ford 801 to me.
Edit: As I recall, Sherman made quite a few things for Ford (including transmissions, loaders, and backhoes)

Aaron Z

 

[jon1996]

The front loader on the 800 is nothing like this one, the rear backhoe looks similar, but this is a ford for sure even though the IH looks like it the most heres another pic, I have more if anyone wants them

 

[joecdeere]

That's an old 1800 series industrial, they were build off the 800 series

versions were -
1811: Select-O-Speed, no PTO or hydraulics

1821: Four-speed, no PTO or hydraulics

1841: Four-speed with PTO and hydraulics

1871: Select-O-Speed with PTO and hydraulics

1881: Select-O-Speed with multi-speed PTO and hydraulics

I think there was another one or two, but I haven't worked at a Ford dealer since the 90's, starting to forget some of it!

nice old tractor in it's day. I can't remember the loader # but parts for that hoe will be a real pain, long obsolete from Ford. Buy it to play with, not to really work hard much. JMHO

 

[aczlan]

The front loader on the 800 is nothing like this one, the rear backhoe looks similar, but this is a ford for sure even though the IH looks like it the most heres another pic, I have more if anyone wants them

Here is an 861 (or is it an 801? The ad calls it an 861, but the picture calls it an 801) which has the same loader, but a different power steering mechanism:

Source: Used Tractors » Helena Farm Supply - Serving Montana for over 60 years
And: http://www.helenafarmsupply.com/web_images/ford801.jpg

Per: 1950 Ford 8N Serial # 306967 (scroll all of the way down), that is a Ford 703 loader
Per: 1970 FORD 703 Other Equipment - Loaders For Sale At TractorHouse.com
This loader can be installed on:

1801, 1811, 1821, 1841, 1871, 1881, 2N, 2000, 4000, 4030, 4031, 4040, 4110, 4120, 4130, 4131, 600, 601, 620, 630, 640, 650, 660, 700, 740, 800, 801, 811, 820, 821, 840, 841, 850, 851, 860, 861, 871, 881, 8N , 900, 901, 941, 950, 951, 960, 961, 971, 981, 9N, NAA, NAB 2000 3000

Here is an 801 with a 703 loader: Ford 801 Tractors | KROMMINGA MOTORS MONTICELLO, IA

Aaron Z