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    Super Member Iplayfarmer's Avatar
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    Default New Toy, No Spark. Problem Solved

    So, this thread started as me posting to ask for some help troubleshooting a problem with the spark on my new to me Case 444 tractor. I ended up finding the problem with the spark, but I figured I'd post anyway just to show off my new toy and warn everyone that there will likely be other questions as I gradually fix this tractor up.

    The spark ended up being a switch issue. When I jumpered a hot wire from the battery positive to the coil, I got spark and got life out of the engine.

    I bought the tractor in not-running condition for a lot less that I think it's worth. I told the guy the tractor is worth more than what I could spend, but he needed the money and took what I had. I was told the tractor needs carburetor work. There are a lot of other little things on it that will need some attention, but the basic tractor seems to be in good shape. The sheet metal is all straight. The motor seems solid. The tires are holding air.

    I found a parts manual download for it online. I'll keep looking for a owners manual and a shop manual.
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    From now on I will only buy cars that are a silver/grey color. Then I can make all body repairs with Duct Tape.

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    Default Re: New Toy, No Spark. Problem Solved

    Quote Originally Posted by Iplayfarmer View Post
    So, this thread started as me posting to ask for some help troubleshooting a problem with the spark on my new to me Case 444 tractor. I ended up finding the problem with the spark, but I figured I'd post anyway just to show off my new toy and warn everyone that there will likely be other questions as I gradually fix this tractor up.

    The spark ended up being a switch issue. When I jumpered a hot wire from the battery positive to the coil, I got spark and got life out of the engine.

    I bought the tractor in not-running condition for a lot less that I think it's worth. I told the guy the tractor is worth more than what I could spend, but he needed the money and took what I had. I was told the tractor needs carburetor work. There are a lot of other little things on it that will need some attention, but the basic tractor seems to be in good shape. The sheet metal is all straight. The motor seems solid. The tires are holding air.

    I found a parts manual download for it online. I'll keep looking for a owners manual and a shop manual.
    This looks very much like the kind of deal I made this spring on a Craftsman/Roper. Not running, but good to go once I traced the issues. Mine worked for me most of the summer but for the winter snowblowing I'll have to do some work on the starter and fuel pump.

    That blade looks like it has "yielded" to the power that tractor can deliver. Good luck! Good deal! Those units are pretty pricey around here.
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    Super Member Iplayfarmer's Avatar
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    Default Re: New Toy, No Spark. Problem Solved

    Quote Originally Posted by NormL View Post
    ...That blade looks like it has "yielded" to the power that tractor can deliver.
    Yeah. That blade's days are numbered. I'm not sure whether to re-build it or scrap it and start over. Anyone who has thought of building a snow blade without trip springs, let this serve as a warning to you.
    From now on I will only buy cars that are a silver/grey color. Then I can make all body repairs with Duct Tape.

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    Default Re: New Toy, No Spark. Problem Solved

    Nice machine! My buddy just bought one identical to that last week (his is 1984) - fully restored except the Kohler needs valve guides done. His was professionally restored, mower deck and snowblower - I think he paid around $2600. I have always wanted one, but I will wait for a 446 or 448

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    Super Member Iplayfarmer's Avatar
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    Default Re: New Toy, No Spark. Problem Solved

    Quote Originally Posted by mwb View Post
    Nice machine! My buddy just bought one identical to that last week (his is 1984) - fully restored except the Kohler needs valve guides done. His was professionally restored, mower deck and snowblower - I think he paid around $2600. I have always wanted one, but I will wait for a 446 or 448

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    That one is NICE. Now I have my feelers out for a snowblower for mine.

    ...I suppose I should probably get it running first.
    From now on I will only buy cars that are a silver/grey color. Then I can make all body repairs with Duct Tape.

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    Default Re: New Toy, No Spark. Problem Solved

    Quote Originally Posted by mwb View Post
    Nice machine! My buddy just bought one identical to that last week (his is 1984) - fully restored except the Kohler needs valve guides done. His was professionally restored, mower deck and snowblower - I think he paid around $2600. I have always wanted one, but I will wait for a 446 or 448

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    That looks too pretty to get it dirty!
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