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    New Member kcshawman's Avatar
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    Default Re: Ran engine without oil, what now?

    Rings are first to go in a gas engine. Your fuel gave some lube to the rings. Bearings are tough. Oil pressure OK? Like they said magnet on oil filter. Magnetic oil plug. Use the engine on light loads and just listen to it. If it sounds ok then you may never have a problem.

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    Default Re: Ran engine without oil, what now?

    My two experiences with main bearing failure were: 1) in a Pontiac my brother had 40 years ago. It was making a loud regular thud, then stopped dead. We were towing it home when his "friend" who was steering it popped the clutch to "see what would happen" and the engine blew apart; 2) I had a 20 year old International pickup and was stopped at a light when the engine did the same thing, after years of thudding. I had it towed home and installed a used engine, swapping enough parts to make it work.
    I would cautiously continue running the tractor while monitoring for unusual noises.

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    Default Re: Ran engine without oil, what now?

    If you were using a good syn oil then I would just flush the system, change the filter, install magnets, and refile with a good syn oil. If you were using just reg oil then I would do the same but take it easy for a few hours and see what happens! Good luck and keep us posted!
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    Default Re: Ran engine without oil, what now?

    Hi, I mean no hijack of this thread but LD1 & Moored4 you both mentioned something that perked my interest & curiousity...keeping a magnet on your oil filter? I've never heard of that and it's an interesting thought. Meant to keep any shavings at bottom of filter? I assume. How strong of a magnet is needed...to remain on an oil filter that is bouncing around like a tractor often does? Do you believe it's effective in extending your vehicles lifespan? If I thought that I could get a magnet to stay/remain on my filter I'd sure try it. Thanks for the thought. Greg

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    Default Re: Ran engine without oil, what now?

    Well, bad news. It ran OK for a couple of minutes and then started squealing with a metal on metal sound. Looks like a rebuild is in my future. Thanks everyone for your input.

    Now, is this a job for the dealer, or should I look for an independent?

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    Default Re: Ran engine without oil, what now?

    Magnet can be on the side or end of filter..Some hyd. filters have one inside..transmission pans have them inside..Drain plugs were available. Used them for years as a little more insurance? one of mine came from an old speaker?
    Okay, Legal disclaimer: Old but not senile, definitely do not have the answer to everything!

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    Default Re: Ran engine without oil, what now?

    Quote Originally Posted by treynolds4961 View Post
    Well, bad news. It ran OK for a couple of minutes and then started squealing with a metal on metal sound. Looks like a rebuild is in my future. Thanks everyone for your input.

    Now, is this a job for the dealer, or should I look for an independent?
    That sound is still better than the hammering of a spun or locked bearing in a rod...
    Okay, Legal disclaimer: Old but not senile, definitely do not have the answer to everything!

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    Default Re: Ran engine without oil, what now?

    Quote Originally Posted by treynolds4961 View Post
    Well, bad news. It ran OK for a couple of minutes and then started squealing with a metal on metal sound. Looks like a rebuild is in my future. Thanks everyone for your input.

    Now, is this a job for the dealer, or should I look for an independent?
    Thats unfortunate. I'd get a price at your dealer, but would probabally go independent. Because the dealer will probabally handle the rebuild, they will have to outsource the machine work most likely. So if you find an engine shop that does their own machine work it might save you.

    But ask around. Ask some local farmers or even some car buffs. Good engine shops dont usually advertize because they get all the business they want from reputation/word or mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Gregster613 View Post
    Hi, I mean no hijack of this thread but LD1 & Moored4 you both mentioned something that perked my interest & curiousity...keeping a magnet on your oil filter? I've never heard of that and it's an interesting thought. Meant to keep any shavings at bottom of filter? I assume. How strong of a magnet is needed...to remain on an oil filter that is bouncing around like a tractor often does? Do you believe it's effective in extending your vehicles lifespan? If I thought that I could get a magnet to stay/remain on my filter I'd sure try it. Thanks for the thought. Greg
    While I have no proven data, they certainly cant hurt.

    I choose the filter for where I put them, because if I stick it on the oil pan, I cannot get the stuck stuff out without taking the pan off. The filter just gets tossed every oil change along with all the metallic particals.

    For magnets, I have scrapped a lot of cars over the years. The permanent magnets in the electric fans on newer cars are pretty powerful and thats what I use. And they arent hard to get to.

    I also use the ring magnet from my hydraulic filter. I save them every fluid change.
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    Default Re: Ran engine without oil, what now?

    Since it is out of warranty I'd get a price from both a dealer and independent mechanic. See how they warranty their work and go from there. I'd pay more for a great mechanic that will stand behind the work.

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    Default Re: Ran engine without oil, what now?

    I'd screw on a new filter, put new oil and a can of seafoam into the crank case. Run it for a bit (what ever that sea foam can sez), then change oil and filter again. Mit as well get all the gunk out of there while you are at it. I think you can consider yourself lucky and quick reaction saved the engine.

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