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05-14-2012, 10:52 AM #1Gold Member
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There's more than one way to break a tire bead
Recently I had to replace the valve stems on the BX1500 because they were cracked and dry rotted. Using the backhoe and a block of wood was the only way we could get tire beads broken, I'm sure there are other creative ways to do this.
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05-14-2012, 07:35 PM #2Veteran Member
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Re: There's more than one way to break a tire bead
I had some 8" tires on my golf cart I changed a few weeks ago and used the pallet forks on my tractor to stab them to break the beads. I have also flattened the tires and run them flat till the beads popped, but these were all tires that I were not to be reused.
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08-03-2012, 07:42 AM #3Super Member
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Re: There's more than one way to break a tire bead
I found this thread after doing a search here for tire bead breaking....I was trying yesterday to break the bead of a 1988 vintage 15 inch tire off a steel rim using the FEL bucket on my deere 4210...even with the tire deflated using either the edge of the bucket pointed down or when level the tire would just flip up when the pressure got to be heavy enough. Is it REALLY practical to use a FEL to break a tire bead?
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08-03-2012, 09:12 AM #4Super Member
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Re: There's more than one way to break a tire bead
In my experience, you have to roll forward while pushing down or it will flip the tire before breaking the bead.
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08-03-2012, 10:25 AM #5Super Member
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Re: There's more than one way to break a tire bead
Always be willing to admit your shortcomings, there is no shame in not knowing how to do something. The shame is in NOT admitting you don't know how to do it.
If you have a small truck, limit yourself to small loads, if you want to carry the big stuff, get a big truck.
Never be ashamed of making a mistake. The only people who never (bleep) up are people who never try to do something new.
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08-03-2012, 10:36 AM #6Super Member
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Re: There's more than one way to break a tire bead
With our B7500 and a haywagon rim that I was putting a tube into, I rolled forward ~1.5" while I was pushing down on the tire to compensate for the arc of the loader going in toward the tractor as it goes down. The lip of the bucket then stayed on the bead and did not slip off like it was doing before I started rolling forward. You could also use the curl function to the the same thing.
IMO, it would work better if the rim was fastened to something immovable so that it couldn't flip.
Aaron ZIf mankind minus one were of one opinion, then mankind is no more justified in silencing the one than the one - if he had the power - would be justified in silencing mankind.
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08-03-2012, 10:47 AM #7Super Member
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Re: There's more than one way to break a tire bead
I have always wondered why nobody seems to market a really large C-clamp unit that would serve to pop a bead on a large tire. Using a clamp is my favorite method for smaller tires such as those found on the rear of L&G tractors.
Always be willing to admit your shortcomings, there is no shame in not knowing how to do something. The shame is in NOT admitting you don't know how to do it.
If you have a small truck, limit yourself to small loads, if you want to carry the big stuff, get a big truck.
Never be ashamed of making a mistake. The only people who never (bleep) up are people who never try to do something new.
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08-03-2012, 12:02 PM #8
Re: There's more than one way to break a tire bead
In addition to the FEL, I've also laid a tire & wheel down and driven a car or pickup onto the flat tire just as close to the rim as possible. That always worked, too.
Bird
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08-03-2012, 12:08 PM #9Super Member
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Re: There's more than one way to break a tire bead
Bird, I have tried using a wheel on my tractor to drive over a tire bead but most of the time the tractor tire simply shoves the horizontal tire away instead of climbing atop it. Later today I am going to try using a steel car ramp straight section and see how that works when Idrive up on it.
Always be willing to admit your shortcomings, there is no shame in not knowing how to do something. The shame is in NOT admitting you don't know how to do it.
If you have a small truck, limit yourself to small loads, if you want to carry the big stuff, get a big truck.
Never be ashamed of making a mistake. The only people who never (bleep) up are people who never try to do something new.
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08-03-2012, 03:44 PM #10
Re: There's more than one way to break a tire bead
Dad and I used to break the bead on tires (haywagons, baler, rake, truck, etc) with the hydraulic drawbar on the back of his Farmall 200. The fast hitch generates plenty of downforce- just place the tire to be "unmounted" flat on the ground centered under the drawbar. Place a block of wood (~12" 2x4) with 2 square ends at the edge of the rim and up against the underside of the drawbar. Slowly lower the drawbar and the sidewall will be pushed away from the bead! Be careful not to use too long a block of wood or keep pushing after the bead is broken as you will raise the rear of the tractor off the ground with the hydraulic!
Frank
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