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    Default need a new clutch -Ford 1720

    My tractor need a new clutch ,has a Sims cab and the shift lever pops out of second gear. Can someone tell me how many hours this repair should take?

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    Default Re: need a new clutch -Ford 1720

    By someone with transmission experience, suitable tools and technical information, or a first timer flying blind?
    Starting with the loader and backhoe on or off? Or with the loader, hoe and sheetmetal removed and tractor pressure washed?
    Transmission work takes lots of time and I'm not going to give an estimate because there are too many variables to consider.
    The required time will be measured in tens of hours.
    We have too much gun control.
    What we need is more idiot control.

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    Default Re: need a new clutch -Ford 1720

    Poping out of gear has nothing to do with the clutch. This problem could be as simple as changing a detent spring. Or do you have two problems. the clutch slips and it pops out of gear. If the clutch is slipping, have you tried adjusting it.
    Bill

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    Default Re: need a new clutch -Ford 1720

    Can you hold the gear in place with a bungy or hand pressure without jumping out. if so, then Bill is on the right track. transmission top cover can be take off simply and detent ball and spring should be checked. Can check the spring without removing the cover bu withdrawing the ball will be very difficult without removing transmission cover.

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    Default Re: need a new clutch -Ford 1720

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked_on_HP View Post
    Poping out of gear has nothing to do with the clutch. This problem could be as simple as changing a detent spring. Or do you have two problems. the clutch slips and it pops out of gear. If the clutch is slipping, have you tried adjusting it.
    Bill
    I agree, popping out of gear has nothing to do with the clutch. It's either a detent spring as stated above, or it could be a bent shifting fork from someone ramming the gearshift..
    Don

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    Default Re: need a new clutch -Ford 1720

    Quote Originally Posted by RickB View Post
    By someone with transmission experience, suitable tools and technical information, or a first timer flying blind?
    Starting with the loader and backhoe on or off? Or with the loader, hoe and sheetmetal removed and tractor pressure washed?
    Transmission work takes lots of time and I'm not going to give an estimate because there are too many variables to consider.
    The required time will be measured in tens of hours.
    And I can't believe, that after reading the OP's post you would still recommend a clutch replacement. And you work in a dealership.
    Don

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    Default Re: need a new clutch -Ford 1720

    Quote Originally Posted by RickB View Post
    By someone with transmission experience, suitable tools and technical information, or a first timer flying blind?
    Starting with the loader and backhoe on or off? Or with the loader, hoe and sheetmetal removed and tractor pressure washed?
    Transmission work takes lots of time and I'm not going to give an estimate because there are too many variables to consider.
    The required time will be measured in tens of hours.
    Quote Originally Posted by Don87 View Post
    And I can't believe, that after reading the OP's post you would still recommend a clutch replacement. And you work in a dealership.
    The OP claims he needs a clutch, and the transmission pops out of second gear. Not hard to take that at face value.
    Is it not possible to believe that the machine has two concurrent problems?
    Perhaps it has been popping out of second for some time, and now needs a clutch so he wants to address both problems at once. I've seen exactly that scenario play out.

    My point was that in order to get even a vague idea of the time required for the repairs far more info is required.
    I'm not selling the job to either him or especially you. If I were, I'd have far more info than I do.
    Don, I have to think that by the timing and tone of the PM you sent me that you were under the influence at the time.
    If not, you need to re-think the situation.
    We have too much gun control.
    What we need is more idiot control.

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    Default Re: need a new clutch -Ford 1720

    Quote Originally Posted by Don87 View Post
    And I can't believe, that after reading the OP's post you would still recommend a clutch replacement. And you work in a dealership.
    The OP asked a question and Rick answered it. He didn't recommend a clutch replacement. The OP is a little vague on his problem so it could be interpreted as one problem or two.
    Bill

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    Default Re: need a new clutch -Ford 1720

    Quote Originally Posted by RickB View Post
    The OP claims he needs a clutch, and the transmission pops out of second gear. Not hard to take that at face value.
    Is it not possible to believe that the machine has two concurrent problems?
    Perhaps it has been popping out of second for some time, and now needs a clutch so he wants to address both problems at once. I've seen exactly that scenario play out.

    My point was that in order to get even a vague idea of the time required for the repairs far more info is required.
    I'm not selling the job to either him or especially you. If I were, I'd have far more info than I do.
    Don, I have to think that by the timing and tone of the PM you sent me that you were under the influence at the time.
    If not, you need to re-think the situation.
    I thought long and hard before I posted.

    I'm an over the road truck driver, and have been for over 11 years. Truckers normally only sleep 5 to 6 hours a day.........it comes with the job. I hit the sack at midnight last night, woke up at 5am today.

    My tone was a direct result of previous posts on this forum, just as I said in my PM.
    Don

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    Default Re: need a new clutch -Ford 1720

    OK all, let me rephrase the question...

    My clutch needs replacement. Given that, how many hours can I expect a mechanic with the facillity and proper tools to quote for replacement.

    Thanks everone for your help.
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