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03-19-2004, 03:28 PM #1
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Battery Definitions
I hate to post another batter thread with a "Battery Recommendations" thread just below. That one has to do with golf carts, so I figure you folks wouldn't mind.
After reading about other battery acid vs. radiator nightmares in another thread, I have decided to go ahead and upgrade as soon as it is practical. Several people have been talking about "Optima" batteries, which seems like a great design. Most likely that will be my upgrade, but I'm a little in the dark about some of the terminology, i.e. Deep Cycle, etc. Any battery experts out there? I'm operating a 2003 4110.
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03-19-2004, 04:13 PM #2Super Member
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Re: Battery Definitions
Pete I agree the Optima battery is the way to go. I installed one in my New Holland when the original battery started spewing acid..
Typically a deep cycle battery is used for an application such as an electric trolling motor on a fishing boat. They are meant to be almost completely discharged before recharging without adverse problem to the battery itself.
I might suggest visiting the FAQ page at the Optima site. There is a lot of interesting info there click here
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03-19-2004, 05:03 PM #3Banned
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Re: Battery Definitions
BigPete,
Your machine uses the group 51R series which is a yellow top
version from Optima. I did the change over a few months ago
on my 4100 for a major piece of mind. Costco might have the Optima 51 R for less...funny thing its the same size as a Honda civic (newer models)
Duc
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03-19-2004, 06:00 PM #4
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Re: Battery Definitions
Thanks, guys. I will study up. this is a piece-of-mind upgrade, too.
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03-19-2004, 07:11 PM #5
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Re: Battery Definitions
Duc, I read that the battery you recommend is a yellow top/deep cycle. I don't think the stock batteries are deep cycle. Any reason the yellow top is recommended? Is it just because the battery will sit for a few weeks at a time during the down season? I don't typically run much of a load or run lights off the battery with the engine off.
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03-19-2004, 07:20 PM #6Platinum Member
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Re: Battery Definitions
Hi
check out this site for batteries
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/auto.htm
Charlie
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03-19-2004, 07:48 PM #7Banned
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Re: Battery Definitions
Hi BigPete,
I was looking for a solution for 6 months when someone sent me this link below, it mentioned Optima offering a group 51 battery. I literally ran to the nearest supply outlet near me ( Pep boys) who had it in stock...it cost me $125 but I will never regret that at all. Your new machine my not be a problem because maybe they addressed it with a better battery?
As far as I know yellow is the only offering thus far in a Group 51 R size...its got a little more punch (CCA) and starts it right up in the cold, but best of all no worries.
Duc
http://www.jci.com/CorpPR/Releases/b...release626.asp
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03-20-2004, 07:08 AM #8Elite Member
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Re: Battery Definitions
I would go with the "redtop", 800cca, as opposed to 500cca for the group 51 "yellow top". You can't go wrong getting the biggest/strongest battery that will fit in your space. Roger-Scotty always recommended the "redtop".
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03-20-2004, 08:18 AM #9Banned
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Re: Battery Definitions
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I would go with the "redtop", 800cca, as opposed to 500cca for the group 51 "yellow top". You can't go wrong getting the biggest/strongest battery that will fit in your space. Roger-Scotty always recommended the "redtop". )</font>
Problem is it will only fit a Group 51 - you are limited to space
and I already tried that with no luck...Yellow is fine and more than adequate...the stock battery is 435cca, the yellow battery is at 500cca...I know originally they didn't offer a group 51 in a red top, but it could have been ( very) recently introduced...its more than enough battery for this machine thats for sure, it comes down to price after that and if its available...
Duc
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03-20-2004, 08:51 AM #10Super Member
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Re: Battery Definitions
Just a thought but you guys still needing Optima batteries may want to check your local AutoZone stores. They started stocking some of the Optima batteries shortly after I installed one in my New Holland. The prices looked good also.


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