2210 carbon monoxcide posining with cab

[PineRidge]

<font color="blue"> I also noticed that the only time i get a headache is when its sunny out and i drive it. </font>

It's gotta be hot in a closed add-on cab with no air conditioning, sure you aren't getting a case of heat exhaustion instead of exhaust poisoning? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[ctc1111]

Yup i'm sure i live in North east mass. if it hits 60 degrees out then its hot out. it was not hot in there at all. I'm going to take the doors off though. In the winter when i had the heat on it worked fine and i never got sick. And considering that i got the tractor on the 1st of feburary that was the hotest its been since i've been driving it.

[Dutch445]

I would think on a 60 degree day with the doors all on that cab would get very warm.
The thing I always heard about carbon monixide, isn't it heavier than air? and sink? My thoughts would tend to think
it was something else also, as it sounds like the first time
anybody has mentioned it, and there are tons of cabs on tractors. And I know that cab isn't sealed very tight, especially the bottom around the seat and foot pedals.. I would imagine any carbon monoxide would drop out of the cab? But, who knows... try a tester and see if you get any readings on it.
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[ctc1111]

I had the windows on the door open and the winshield open. I'm feeling better now and i'm about to go out and take the doors off and try it again. I notice the guy on TBN who has the kubota bx22 that has a curtis cab has it all sealed up with these bit rubber mats under the seat and pedals. It was not hot in there so i know it wasn't that.

[Dutch445]

Collin,
If you had the windows on the doors open, and the windshield popped out,, I find it hard to think any fumes would have been trapped in enough to cause a problem...
maybe you're getting the bug that's goin around!
it's hit around here hard...

could it be motion sickness?
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[timb]

Does JD make a vertical exhaust kit for the 2210? They have them for the bigger CUTs. If so - and if you're going to leave the cab on anyway - it might do the trick of routing the exhaust away from you and the cab without costing you any more clearance problems than you already have with the cab.

[ctc1111]

i drove it today and i had both the doors off and the fan going and i was fine i started to get a little headache when i was driving with the rake on for a few hours i had my head turned around for a few minutes at a time then i would turn around and i would be a little dizzy but no big deal. So that makes me think it was something to do with fumes.

[PineRidge]

If you had both doors off and still didn't feel well I think you can rule the monoxide thing out.

It would be like driving a car around with the windows down, not much chance for fumes building up inside.

[JD2210MAN]

John Deere does make a kit for the exhaust stack. I have seen a post on it here on TBN but it was a year ago. I also saw a post last year of a step by step install on a 41XX. It is such a good idea. If I did not have so many darn trees (I mean my wife's apple trees) I would get it too. When I work in front of the 2210, I get nailed in the face with fumes but they have never made me sick. Just really annoying! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Another thought is your Cab is new. The sun was beating on it and releasing chemicals from the rubber, fiberglass, plastic and everything else. Maybe the combination of those and the glues made you sick?

[SkyPup]

ctc111 - like I said, you can rule out carbon monoxide (CO) 100% simply due to two facts:

1.) Diesels do not produce enough to worry about.

2.) If they did you would not be here thinking about it.

If you ever do actually suspect that you or anyone else has been poisoned by carbon monoxide from any spark ignition engine, the LAST thing you want to do is go purchase a carbon monoxide meter to find out how much you are being poisioned.

The is analagous to playing Russian Roulette and after firing a bullet into your temple you check to see if there is any empty shell case in the chamber... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

The FIRST thing to do in ANY suspected carbon monoxide poisoning from any spark igintion engine is to stop whatever is going on and go see a medical doctor within the next 5 seconds, a simple blood test for hemoglobin and the physical color of your blood is all it takes to get you on an oxygen respirator and a blood transfusion. CO is lethal in &lt;15 minutes

Remember, compression ignition diesel engines do not produce enough carbon monoxide to worry about despite what anyone else says. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00050544.htm

NOTICE: During the follow-up investigation, environmental CO sampling was performed. With the tractor stationary and its engine running, a monitor was placed where someone working on the setter would sit; CO levels of an average of 477 parts per million (ppm) were detected during a 15-minute sampling period. ** Four other gasoline-powered tractors with comparable exhaust configurations, manufactured between 1947 and 1979 (the tractor used while the woman was working was manufactured in 1967), were similarly tested. Fifteen-minute CO levels were 38, 364, 507, and 706 ppm.

"Tests conducted on a diesel-powered tractor resulted in zero ppm CO for the 15-minute testing period." [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Finally, CO sampling performed using the woman's equipment and simulating planting procedures detected levels of 384 ppm in 15 minutes. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]