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Old 04-05-2005, 07:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2210 carbon monoxcide posining with cab

today i just got a new landscape rake for the JD 2210 and i was using it smoothing out some land. I have a curtis cab, hard sided. I had both the doors shut and i started to get a little headache and didn't think to much of it then all of a sudden it hit me big time i got a really bad headache and then i got out of the tractor sat on the lawn for a few minutes and then i "regurgitated" lunch and felt like i was gunna pass out. I'm not no doctor but i think this had to do with carbon monoxcide. And i started thinking about how under my seat i have no rubber flap covering it so i can see the ground from that and how around the pedals i can see the ground theres about an inch of space around each pedal. My more specific concern was the brake pedal since that is on the same side as the exhaust. I think that the fumes are comming up through the pedals (brake pedal) and then getting trapped into the cab since i did smell a little something but i fuigered it was just cause i had a little diesel fuel on my hands from filling it up. When i drive it i do get a little minor headache but this is the first time this has happened this bad. But this is also the first time i've drven it in 60 degree weather or above so could this have anything to do with it? has this happened to anyone else? What can i do about it?
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Old 04-05-2005, 09:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Years ago they used to sell a gadget that clipped to the sun visor of your car and changed colors if there was carbon monoxide danger within the auto.

I have been unable to find one however doing a Google search tonight so they may no longer be available..

If you have a good in home carbon monoxide detector you may want to place it in your cab, power it up with an extension cord, and do a test run of the engine while the tractor remains stationary.

Carbon Monoxide is nothing to mess with and it builds up in the bloodstream quickly at higher rates. Sometimes people that were affected by high amounts fell asleep and never knew what hit them.

I would consider myself lucky to have caught it as soon as you did.

EDIT: Found one at eBay where else detector

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Old 04-05-2005, 09:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sure is something to check out anyway. May, or may not, be carbon monoxide, but one would want to know for sure.
I'd get some ventilation in there, if mine.
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Old 04-05-2005, 10:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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I would think your on the right track. Dont they make home detectors that are battery powered which might be another option. Man that has to be a little erie, dont think I would have thought about it. You might also want to contact Curtis and talk to them about it, they might have a good sugestion since helping is better than a law suit.

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Old 04-05-2005, 10:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2210 carbon monoxcide posining with cab

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Years ago they used to sell a gadget that clipped to the sun visor of your car and changed colors if there was carbon monoxide danger within the auto. )</font>

It's been so long ago that I'd forgotten about putting those in the police cars one year. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Well over 30 years ago anyway. I don't know whether they're still made or not.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( in home carbon monoxide detector you may want to place it in your cab, power it up with an extension cord )</font>

Shouldn't need an extension cord; just use one of the battery powered models. The one in our last motorhome was powered by a 9 volt battery which I had to change about every 8 months.
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I find diesel fumes can give me a good headache in the right conditions. My fiancee is very sensitive to them so my work clothes sometimes have to stay outside.
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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If this was from a diesel engine in your JD you do NOT have to worry about carbon monoxide since diesels do NOT produce enough to affect a human, not that I am endorsing any long term continued human breathing of diesel exhaust due to the carcinogenic soot and PM&lt;2.5 particulate matter.

However, if it is a gasoline motor, there is enough carbon monoxide in the exhaust to kill 25 human beings in less than 15 minutes.

Diesel compression ignition engines typically produce less than 0.1% CO, whilst petrol spark ignition based engines produce 5%-7% CO when tuned up properly (more when out of tune).

Don't worry about CO if your engine is a diesel, but if it is a gasser watchout! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]


http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00050544.htm
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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tes its a diesel. i was sick all night though and i still am today and its 9 o'clock. I'm going to try and put my house carbon monixcide detector in there and let it run on full idle in the drive way and see if it gos off after awhile. Thank you for find that one of ebay. I have a feeling it has something to do with the exhaust comming up into the cab from under the seat and the pedals. so I think that i'm going to get some kind of rubber or something and put it around teh pedals and under the seat Anyone have any ideas on what i should use? By the way theres carbon monoxcide warning labels all over the inside of the cab, i'm not sure waht they say but they're all over the inside.
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Like I said, carbon monoxide poisoning is not likely to be a factor with any diesel engine, however the polynuclear aromatics, nitrogen oxides, sulfur oxides, PM &lt;2.5. sulfur particulates and such all easily go directly into your bloodstream through the aveolar cells in your lung, any of which is enough to make you sick and shorten your life span.

In particular, the burning of diesel fuel in compression ignition engines produces very high levels of extremely toxic nitrogen oxides, more so than gasoline engines, and this is most likely what you are suffering ill effects from, not carbon monoxide.

Remember, diesel exhaust does not contain enough CO to poison humans. The Nazi's tried it since it was much cheaper than using petrol engines, but the victims all walked out of the gas chambers black with soot.
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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<font color="blue">Shouldn't need an extension cord; just use one of the battery powered models. The one in our last motorhome was powered by a 9 volt battery which I had to change about every 8 months.
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Bird you're absolutely correct. I hadn't even considered that some co detectors are battery operated just the same as smoke detectors. All the ones around here are the plug in versions.

I also like the Night-Hawk models the best as some show digital readout thus giving you any low readings that may be present in the house.

If my windows are open and I'm using the gasoline power washer in the drive it has in the past made the meter in the home show 2 ppm (parts per million) of carbon monoxide so it is very sensitive.
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