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    I keep getting mixed messages on when to change engine oil.. Is it at 250 or 50 hours? I am doing all filters as the machine is in such weird shape (I hit 50 hours today).

    Also, I found another set of oil leaks. The hoses, I think drive hoses, running to the front are pretty cracked up, so they are seeping. I am thinking of just replacing all of my hoses running from the back to front. Some are weather checked, some are not. Anyone ever do this before?


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    Quote Originally Posted by woodlandfarms
    I keep getting mixed messages on when to change engine oil.. Is it at 250 or 50 hours? I am doing all filters as the machine is in such weird shape (I hit 50 hours today).

    Also, I found another set of oil leaks. The hoses, I think drive hoses, running to the front are pretty cracked up, so they are seeping. I am thinking of just replacing all of my hoses running from the back to front. Some are weather checked, some are not. Anyone ever do this before?


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    Quote Originally Posted by woodlandfarms
    I keep getting mixed messages on when to change engine oil.. Is it at 250 or 50 hours? I am doing all filters as the machine is in such weird shape (I hit 50 hours today).

    Also, I found another set of oil leaks. The hoses, I think drive hoses, running to the front are pretty cracked up, so they are seeping. I am thinking of just replacing all of my hoses running from the back to front. Some are weather checked, some are not. Anyone ever do this before?


    Carl
    On the hose change, there are several ways to do this. One is by taking it to a hydraulic shop and letting them make the hoses, and installing them. In my area, they will come to you with a van or truck and make up hoses for you.

    You might get PT to give you dimensions to all the hoses, and let the hydraulic shop make them up and you install them.

    You could order them off the INTERNET, but you have to know all the particulars, such as hose length, hose diameter, how many layers of wire, type fitting. etc.

    A good way to run the hoses through the tunnel, is to get an adapter and connect the old hose and the new hose together and pull the new hose through the tunnel. I would also suggest spraying the hoses with something like liquid Dawn, or something slicky, that is easy to clean up.

    You might also want to decide whether to use 1, 2, or 3 wire hoses.
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    I would recommend the soap they use for pulling wires. It dries up well and should not cause any problems in the future.

    It is tough to replace the hoses without knowing how long they are. There are the do it yourself hoses/fittings. The fittings are more expensive and I do not know how well they work but I assume they work.

    Reusable SAE 100R2AT Hose Ends

    The advantage here would be that you could pull a line through like JJ suggests (or a couple of lines at a time?) by making up one end of the hose. After you pull it through, you can see where to cut it and add the second fitting. If you wanted, you could place some reference length marks on the new hose (label them), measure the old hose after it has been removed, finish measuring frm one of the reference marks and cut it to the exact same size (don't forget to include the length of the fittings).

    It would be so much nicer/easier if PT can give you the hose specifications and lengths ahead of time so you could save some time and money.

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    As I see it, here is the problem with the connect two hoses together idea. On the front, the hoses connecting to the wheels have 90 degree bends on the connector. So there is no way for me to connect two hoses together and pull them through as on of the ends is going to have a 90 degree turn...
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodlandfarms
    As I see it, here is the problem with the connect two hoses together idea. On the front, the hoses connecting to the wheels have 90 degree bends on the connector. So there is no way for me to connect two hoses together and pull them through as on of the ends is going to have a 90 degree turn...
    both ends have a 90 degree connectors?? Can't pull it through from the other end other directon? Not seeing the setup, so just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodlandfarms
    As I see it, here is the problem with the connect two hoses together idea. On the front, the hoses connecting to the wheels have 90 degree bends on the connector. So there is no way for me to connect two hoses together and pull them through as on of the ends is going to have a 90 degree turn...

    I have one of the manual portable crimper's, but have never used it. The instructions indicate that it is fairly easy. The instructions say to select the correct fitting, and I mean by that, is to select the fitting that is matched to the diameter of the hose. It could be 1,2, or 3 wire. Once the correct fitting is selected, put the fitting into a vise, slide the hose on the unit until it is flush to the end of the barrel. You then, take this tool that looks like a pipe cutter, but it puts a crimper bead around the hose. You do this 2 or 3 times.

    These things must work , a lot of people cannot afford to waste time running back to the hydraulic shop.

    With the screw on fittings, seems like all you have to do is cut the ends flush, put the screw barrel on first, and insert the core and tighten the barrel as necessary.

    If you have a a straight end, it should go easy, the pull should go smothly

    If you have 90 degree fittings on both ends, you might have some difficulty there. Your option is to have a portable crimper machine at the install site.

    I was going to mention the wire pull liquid, but I didn't know if it would clean up easy.

    It would be nice if you had a hydraulic shop that you could trailer your PT to the back door of the shop, and they would let you remove , order up a hose, and you install the hose, They would have the hose, fittings, and your oil, and for around $ 55.00 an hour, they just might do everything, plus parts.
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    Hi J.J.,

    All the hydraulic crimpers I have ever seen are pretty expensive. Do you know of any that are not?

    Thanks,

    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksimolo
    Hi J.J.,

    All the hydraulic crimpers I have ever seen are pretty expensive. Do you know of any that are not?

    Thanks,

    Ken
    This is one of the units that I found. It is more expensive than the unit that I have. will look for more.

    ACTMAN2100, Set, A/C Hose Crimper, Manual
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_J
    This is one of the units that I found. It is more expensive than the unit that I have. will look for more.

    ACTMAN2100, Set, A/C Hose Crimper, Manual
    Another crimper.

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    Hydraulic Hose Repair/A step by step guide using the Roto-Crimper
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