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Old 07-15-2008, 10:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Maybe you guys could help

We have a Prowler mini skidsteer. Attachments like a brush hog and post hole digger are very expensive for them.
I was just on The Power Trac site and the quick attach is similar to what we use. Do you think it possible to take off their plate and weld or bolt one that fits ours?
We use 2 hoses for the bucket and also 2 auxillary hoses if needed. Is that the same as yours?
Thank you for any help.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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We have a Prowler mini skidsteer. Attachments like a brush hog and post hole digger are very expensive for them.
I was just on The Power Trac site and the quick attach is similar to what we use. Do you think it possible to take off their plate and weld or bolt one that fits ours?
We use 2 hoses for the bucket and also 2 auxillary hoses if needed. Is that the same as yours?
Thank you for any help.
Look at the T-8 class attachments on PT's site. Their hydraulic PTO implements are built for 8GPM at 2500PSI max to drive motors such as the bush hog or PHD. (Based on other specs though, it looks like they'll handle up to 12GPM, but they're "sized" for 8GPM)

On the PT, the two smaller auxiliary hoses (one open-center circuit) are used to control double acting cylinders such as on the grapple and mini-hoe. They operate off a shared circuit with the same specs as above, but it is shared by the steering valve/cylinders, lift arms, tilt function -- conceptually four different functions could be using its 8 GPM flow at one time. Regardless, the max PSI is the same 2500 PSI.

It should be pretty straight-forward to either remove the entire PT QA plate, or cut off the edges that stick out so you could mount yours. However, they have prices for some of their attachments with no QA plate on them, just for use on other equipment. See this link:

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I'll bet that if you called them, they'd price any of their other implements without a QA plate, based on this precedent. However, you might have to wait a few days for them to build it... they may not have it in stock without the QA plate. It's a small company that's easy to deal with -- call 'em.
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Old 07-16-2008, 11:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I just thought of another thing to point out, when it comes to using PT attachments on other equipment....

The geometry of the lift arms on the PT are such that QA plate PT is angled forward, not straight up and down, when the lift arms of the PT are down at ground level. You have to lift the arms about 18"-24" before that angle becomes straight up and down, i.e. vertical.

Consequently, the QA plate for the attachments is tilted forward at the top about 25 degrees. That might be a factor in adapting their attachments to other equipment. It is easy to see by looking at the construction of the back of their buckets, like the one shown below -- the QA plate is mounted to the large, angled area on the backside of the bucket.



Note that the PT brush cutter, finish mower and PHD (but NOT the Planter Drill) all have a swivel mechanism that allows the QA plate to swivel forward/back and side to side, without impacting the orientation of the attachment. The Planter Drill is fixed side-to-side, and it will only swivel forward/back. Most of the implements have completely fixed QA points, obviously, such as the buckets, booms, etc.

I'm familiar with this issue because I have two differeent 3-pt implements (Howse landscape rake and King Kutter BB) that have been adapted to my PT... The QA plate on the Howse is mounted vertically (it came with the used package when I bought it) and consequently, the rake will not "tilt up" in the front as much as it would have otherwise, and tilts down much farther than you'd have any need to. I tilted the QA plate on the BB, when I had it welded on, so that the range of motion is more in line with what you'd expect.

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Old 07-16-2008, 01:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I just thought of another thing to point out, when it comes to using PT attachments on other equipment....

The geometry of the lift arms on the PT are such that QA plate PT is angled forward, not straight up and down, when the lift arms of the PT are down at ground level. You have to lift the arms about 18"-24" before that angle becomes straight up and down, i.e. vertical.

Consequently, the QA plate for the attachments is tilted forward at the top about 25 degrees. That might be a factor in adapting their attachments to other equipment. It is easy to see by looking at the construction of the back of their buckets, like the one shown below -- the QA plate is mounted to the large, angled area on the backside of the bucket.

I'm familiar with this issue because I have two differeent 3-pt implements (Howse landscape rake and King Kutter BB) that have been adapted to my PT... The QA plate on the Howse is mounted vertically (it came with the used package when I bought it) and consequently, the rake will not "tilt up" in the front as much as it would have otherwise, and tilts down much farther than you'd have any need to. I tilted the QA plate on the BB, when I had it welded on, so that the range of motion is more in line with what you'd expect.
i was wondering about the PT atachment angle as well. Within the next year i would like to get a set of forklifts made by another company and was going to have to figure what height the QA plate would have to be welded on and what angle to have it pitched forward. Is 25 degrees pretty much the standard thruout the different models or does anyone know what the corrent angle is? thanks
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you for the help, sounds like it might work.
We have a landscape rake for our tractor we just put a plate on for our mini. My partner said it worked great.
Any idea who lives within a couple hours of me that might have a brush mower for me to look at? If I could bring our mini and sit it next to it it should probably tell me if it would work.
I live in western CT and also in Norwich,NY.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I live in central MA, just west of Worcester. I have my brush cutter here for the summer, if you'd like to come look at it.
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In the "OtherAtt" how in the world is the "Wheel Trencher" the same price as the "3ft. Trencher"...and...and the "Tiller" is less than both!?

Makes no sense to me.
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Old 07-17-2008, 06:51 AM   #8 (permalink)
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KentT,
That would be great!
I'll figure out when we're not working and see if it is good for you.
Thank you very much.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:07 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Welcome to the world of PT!

If you look at the attachments, I've noticed that parts that can be made readily from plate steel tend to be cheaper than ones that need special parts from the 'outside' world. e.g. the tiller vs. the wheel trencher.

Just my $0.02 worth...

All the best,

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In the "OtherAtt" how in the world is the "Wheel Trencher" the same price as the "3ft. Trencher"...and...and the "Tiller" is less than both!?

Makes no sense to me.
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