interchangeable qa plate pt180 vs others

[rob06053]

Does anyone know if the qa (quick attach) plate on a pt 180 would fit any of the other power tractors., like the 422 or 425?. There are a lot of attachments that I think even the pt180 could handle that are only sold for the others. It curious that the augers that are up to 12" that are available on the 422 & 425 are the same #'s as for the 180.

[MossRoad]

I don't think so, but a call to Power Trak would confirm.

[rob06053]

Well I did ask the sales person and he said no. Of course guys in sales dont always know the ins and out of the machine like that guys in the shop.

[Tim_in_CT]

PT-180 QA plate is a different size then the PT-422/425.

I have heard of one case where a buyer convinced PT to weld a PT180 plate on a PT422/425 attachment. YMMV, since I am sure they will then give you some arguements about warrenty issues caused by overstressing your tractor by non-approved attachments and what-not.

It all depends if you think that you will be able to use a warrenty requiring you to ship your 12000# CUT cross-country at your expense...

I would think that the PT180/PT425 auger head is identical except for the QA plate, so it would make sense that the auger blades have the same part number (but the PT425 auger is $300 more then the PT180 auger, so maybe not... and the PT1430 auger is $600 more then the PT425 auger).

what PT-422/425 attachment are you looking at? Some of the hydraulic attachments requiring an aux hydraulic circuit (4N1 bucket, grapples, mini-hoe, snow-blower, spreader) would require you to modify your hydraulic system to make them work (well documented here in the archives).

[KentT]

The QA plates are not the same. The 180 is intentionally smaller than the T-8 used on the 400/425.

Both the 180 and the 422/425 are 8 GPM PTO systems, but the 180 is rated at 2000 PSI max, while the 422/425 is rated at 2500 PSI. Bottom line is that the 400/425 system will provide more HP and torque to the PTO-driven attachments. I'd question how well the 180 would drive a large auger, for example, in hard clay or rocks.

As mentioned, PT will often put the QA plate from a larger series onto an attachment designed for a smaller tractor. But, I've not heard of them doing the reverse -- i.e. modifying an attachment from a larger tractor to fit a smaller one. The attachments are generally matched to the size of the machine on purpose... Not sure if they'd warranty an attachment modified to work on a different model that did not meet their specs.

[rob06053]

I appreciate your help. I 've had my pt 180 3 years now and I ve landscaped most of my acre property with , besides building walkways and patios, and inground pool deck with brick pavers (10,000 in all). Without the power trak, at 60 years old, I never would have been able to do it. So I guessd I kinda know what its caplable of and not. Some of the attachments made for others would not overburden the pt180, two of which I d like to have,the grapple bucket & disc edger.
Im not too worried about warranties at this point. Besides had a problem with the Robin engine the first year and power trac rep basically told me to contact Robin engines tod fix it or I m on my own. Of course then Robin engines told me to contact power trac. Long story short after lots of phone calls I got Robin engines to over haul the engine for free.
Attachments I have are the dirt rock bucket, towing adaptor, tiller, forks and snow blade. I used em all cept for the snow blade which is basically useless...can do a quicker job with the bucket.

[Tim_in_CT]

It is surprising that PT doesn't sell the disc edger for the PT180, and I am betting that you could easily talk them into making one for you. I am also betting that they would convert a grapple bucket for you as well.

The grapple bucket would require you to add a hydraulic circuit or diverter valve to your PT-180, as a number of other PT owners have done.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/p...or-button.html

[rob06053]

Thanks for the information..While I m fairly handy Im not sure if I inderstand how to do it after looking at the link...Im more of a wood guy than a mechanic.