Want to see yet another pole building?

[SteelDust]

This will eventually be a 36x36 monitor style horse barn. 3 stalls, 12x36 loft, tack room, wash rack, and room to park the tractor.

I'll update as progress occurs.

First pic is the rental bobcat. I find it much easier when putting up a pole building to drill to depth and lift the auger out without spinning it out. Lots less to clean out and well worth the half day rental.

Second pic is with all 16 holes drilled.

Third pic is hauling home the poles. With the 22 foot 6x8s on there it was a little lighter on the tongue than I like. But, luckily I can take back roads home from the lumber yard.

Fourth pic is raising the longer of the posts. I was able to raise the 14 footers by hand fairly easily. I need a little assistance in the form of the Massey 1533 to raise the 22 footers. It went pretty smoothly for having no help that day. I carried the pole to the hole on the forks, set one end over the hole against a 6 foot section of 2x6. I then blocked up the post, drove around to the other end, set it on top of the forks, and walked it in as I raised it. The 2x6 stops it from digging into the opposite side of the hole and allows it to slide down in a controlled manner. I marked the "pivot point" of the post to ensure that I didn't pass it until a significant portion of the post was in the hole.

Fifth pic is with all the excess dirt cleaned off the pad and all poles in their holes.

Sixth pic is squaring the building and bracing corners.



4 poles left to align and level as of the end of today. I'll have those done by tomorrow. Figures, I took next week of with plans of having the loft up and the roof framing complete, and now the forecast is crap all week. Good thing I bought that set of Grunden's rain gear.

 

[EddieWalker]

Looks like a fun project!!!

I'm always interested in the framing and would really appreciate some of your pictures showing how you do it.

Are you making your own trusses?

Does your state have code where you live?

Thanks for the great pics, it looks like you are off to a very nice start.

Eddie

 

[TNhobbyfarmer]

Fourth pic is raising the longer of the posts. I was able to raise the 14 footers by hand fairly easily. I need a little assistance in the form of the Massey 1533 to raise the 22 footers. It went pretty smoothly for having no help that day. I carried the pole to the hole on the forks, set one end over the hole against a 6 foot section of 2x6. I then blocked up the post, drove around to the other end, set it on top of the forks, and walked it in as I raised it. The 2x6 stops it from digging into the opposite side of the hole and allows it to slide down in a controlled manner. I marked the "pivot point" of the post to ensure that I didn't pass it until a significant portion of the post was in the hole.

Very interesting you putting those long poles in without any help. I understand the concept until you get to the blocking up part. Which end of the pole did you block up? A little more simplified explanation from that point on for us simple folks woule be appreciated.

I work a lot by myself, and I'm always looking for ways to do things alone without getting hurt. In fact, I will be putting in some heavy 16' cedar posts for a gate entrance. Thanks for any clarification you can provide.

By the way, I don't have pallet forks, only a bucket with toothbar.

 

[SteelDust]

Looks like a fun project!!!

I'm always interested in the framing and would really appreciate some of your pictures showing how you do it.

Are you making your own trusses?

Does your state have code where you live?

Thanks for the great pics, it looks like you are off to a very nice start.

Eddie

Side framing will be 2x6 girts on 24" centers. Not sure what kind of siding I'm going with yet. It depends on what "my guy" can come up with for cedar. If his price is reasonable it'll be board and batt. If not, it looks like I'll be going with metal. The side that the horses will have nearly constant access to will likely be 2x6 T&G ground to eaves. They'll destroy anything else.

Roof support is 2x12 rafters, doubled up on the posts. Purlins will sit on the 2x12's and will be 2x6 on 24" centers. Metal roof with vapor barrier on top of that. Has to handle 25psf snow loads.

In this county, if you use trusses they must be engineered. If you use rafters, it's much simpler and you can just use the rafter span tables.

 

[SteelDust]

Very interesting you putting those long poles in without any help. I understand the concept until you get to the blocking up part. Which end of the pole did you block up? A little more simplified explanation from that point on for us simple folks woule be appreciated.

I work a lot by myself, and I'm always looking for ways to do things alone without getting hurt. In fact, I will be putting in some heavy 16' cedar posts for a gate entrance. Thanks for any clarification you can provide.

By the way, I don't have pallet forks, only a bucket with toothbar.

Here's a step by step:

1. Carry pole to desired hole.

2. Suspend one end of pole horizontally above hole about 2 feet in the air.

3. I used a 2 foot tall scrap piece of 4x12 to block then end of the pole (the end opposite the hole) about 2-3 feet off the ground.

4. Lower the pole, one end will rest up against the 2x6 placed in the hole, the other end will be supported by the blocking.

5. You can now drive out and re-align the tractor, so that you are facing the end of the post while looking straight ahead at the hole.

6. Pick up pole with the top of your bucket (forks in my case) and lift it a few inches.

7. Remove blocking, so that you are not driving over it as you walk the post in. At this point the pole is up against the 2x6 that's in the hole with the other end supported by your loader in some fashion.

8. I lifted the pole to about 5 feet then started to creep forward. As I crept forward I slowly raised the loader.

9. Eventually you get to a point where the post wants to slide down the 2x6 and right it self....go slow here. A couple of times I had to get off and shift the 2x6 to assist things a bit.




I'd imagine you could use a bucket, might take a little more effort but would be possible. A friend of mine set 26 foot posts in the same fashion with the bucket of his loader. They chained the posts to the bucket to move them into position over the hole, and used two guys to hole the post up, vice blocking it up. They then used the same method I did to walk them in.

 

[TNhobbyfarmer]

Here's a step by step:

1. Carry pole to desired hole.

2. Suspend one end of pole horizontally above hole about 2 feet in the air.

3. I used a 2 foot tall scrap piece of 4x12 to block then end of the pole (the end opposite the hole) about 2-3 feet off the ground.

4. Lower the pole, one end will rest up against the 2x6 placed in the hole, the other end will be supported by the blocking.

5. You can now drive out and re-align the tractor, so that you are facing the end of the post while looking straight ahead at the hole.

6. Pick up pole with the top of your bucket (forks in my case) and lift it a few inches.

7. Remove blocking, so that you are not driving over it as you walk the post in. At this point the pole is up against the 2x6 that's in the hole with the other end supported by your loader in some fashion.

8. I lifted the pole to about 5 feet then started to creep forward. As I crept forward I slowly raised the loader.

9. Eventually you get to a point where the post wants to slide down the 2x6 and right it self....go slow here. A couple of times I had to get off and shift the 2x6 to assist things a bit.




I'd imagine you could use a bucket, might take a little more effort but would be possible. A friend of mine set 26 foot posts in the same fashion with the bucket of his loader. They chained the posts to the bucket to move them into position over the hole, and used two guys to hole the post up, vice blocking it up. They then used the same method I did to walk them in.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I now fully understand the concept. I will give it a try with my poles.

 

[SteelDust]

Updated:

Was a long miserable week. Figures, I take it off to work on this and end up working in the rain for most of it. Didn't get nearly as far as I would have liked to. The lean to section rafters are up, the loft is framed in. Still have to go back and drill and bolt everything together, everything right now is just nailed. The loft decking will go on tomorrow, then I can raise the center section rafters, and put up the roof pulins much easier.


1st pic: Pole are all set and braced. We had 40 mph winds the day after I did this. Everything was still level the next morning.

2nd pic: Hanging the loft joists.

3rd pic: Loft joist are done. Now I just have to go back and put in the other 500 or some odd nails in the joist hangers.

4th pic: Overview looking south.

5th pic: Different angle.

 

[ultrarunner]

Keep the pictures coming... looks like you will be done soon.

 

[EddieWalker]

Looks awessome!!!

I reallly like the second story and how strong you are building it. Looks like it will last forever!!!!

Thanks for the updates and I'm looking forward to more of them.

Eddie

 

[glmf]

Very nice, please keep the pictures coming. Thanks