HOME  DISCUSSIONS  PHOTOS  REVIEWS  CLASSIFIEDS  DEALERS  STORE
 

Go Back   TractorByNet.com > General Forums > Projects
Show Recent Threads:
24 Hours
Since My Last Visit

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-08-2008, 02:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 31
Default Creek Gravel / Rock as temporary drive?

Hi all. I am currently working on putting in a driveway on some property i bought. I wont be ready for a while yet to to actually lay gravel ect.. but the problem is, i have no where to park and i get stuck if its muddy and i dont have my 4 wheel drive. (decent incline from road). At any rate, i know creek gravel not generaly good for driveways b/c it doesnt compact well, but would it be okay to use temporarilly just for some traction and parking area? I have a small creek that i would like to make a bit deeper in parts and this would be a great way to get rid of the excess rock. In addition, would i be okay to leave it when ready for the actual drive and just lay my base and topcoat over it? (This is all assuming im even allowed to dig out the creek, have not checked yet). Thanks!
dirtyb115 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2008, 02:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
Platinum Member
 
jeffinsgf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 972
Default Re: Creek Gravel / Rock as temporary drive?

Where I grew up only "rich" people had "white rock" driveways. Apparently, where I am now is much closer to a quarry, because there is much less of a price difference between crushed limestone and creek gravel.

I think you'll be fine using your creek gravel. It should make an excellent base for your drive when you get to that point. I'm just envious you have access to it on your place. Almost every neighbor around me has a stream that runs most of the time and has tons of gravel. I've got a dry wash that dries up 20 or 30 hours after the rain stops, and the bottom is solid limestone.
__________________
4410 ePR, 3rd SCV, Skid Plates, TuffTop Canopy
430 FEL, 48 BH, MX-5, Frontier 72" FM & 60" BB, Bush Hog Chipper, and more.

455, 60" deck, MC-519, 3pt hitch
jeffinsgf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2008, 03:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Wheeling, WV
Posts: 988
Default Re: Creek Gravel / Rock as temporary drive?

I doubt that you will be able to dig gravel out of the creek bed if you go thru the proper channels. Now a days the DEP is cracking down on such projects. You can check though as the laws vary from state to state.

Sincerely, Dirt
__________________
"Good judgement comes from experience.Experience comes from bad judgement."
dirtworksequip is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2008, 03:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
Platinum Member
 
jeffinsgf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 972
Default Re: Creek Gravel / Rock as temporary drive?

Don't know about OH or WV, but it is still legal in MO. You aren't supposed to actually get your loader in the creek, but if you can harvest it from the bank, and you're not selling it, you're OK in MO.
__________________
4410 ePR, 3rd SCV, Skid Plates, TuffTop Canopy
430 FEL, 48 BH, MX-5, Frontier 72" FM & 60" BB, Bush Hog Chipper, and more.

455, 60" deck, MC-519, 3pt hitch
jeffinsgf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2008, 08:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: northwestern connecticut
Posts: 72
Default Re: Creek Gravel / Rock as temporary drive?

Just a thought. You might do well to get s geotextile type of fabirc as an underlayment for the gravel. It costs about $380 a roll for several hundred feet at about 12 foot width. It will stop the gravel from disappearing into the ground according to what I have read. I am about to start my own driveway "rebuild" and this fabric is going down as soon as I remove the soupy, sandy, grit and so called gravel that is on my drive now to replace with proper crushed stone. I have put down more than 40 tons of processed gravel over the past eight years and as of today I reckon about half of it has sunk into the ground because I do not have a geotextile type fabric under it.
ccdck20hst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2008, 09:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
Gold Member
 
Flatheadyoungin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Southern, OH
Posts: 278
Default Re: Creek Gravel / Rock as temporary drive?

keep us posted on this fabric stuff.....i have a 1/4 mile to possibly to do.......

good thread!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ccdck20hst
Just a thought. You might do well to get s geotextile type of fabirc as an underlayment for the gravel. It costs about $380 a roll for several hundred feet at about 12 foot width. It will stop the gravel from disappearing into the ground according to what I have read. I am about to start my own driveway "rebuild" and this fabric is going down as soon as I remove the soupy, sandy, grit and so called gravel that is on my drive now to replace with proper crushed stone. I have put down more than 40 tons of processed gravel over the past eight years and as of today I reckon about half of it has sunk into the ground because I do not have a geotextile type fabric under it.
__________________
TC45 Shuttle, 270 hours, 758C backhoe, 16LA loader

Well, I looks like I just bought myself a lot of work.....
Flatheadyoungin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2008, 09:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: central, pa
Posts: 222
Default Re: Creek Gravel / Rock as temporary drive?

The fabric under stone works great. I laid 260 feet 12 feet wide and put 8" of asphalt millings on top. Water runs off and shale stays put. I would have to believe that the weeds will be at a minimum this year also with the use of fabric.

Brad
__________________
TC21D HYDRO R4S, AND TURFS , Woods LS84 FEL, NH 914A 60"MMM, HF QUICK HITCH, LEINBACH RB

I may not play the game, however I always know the final score.
bigshovel is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2008, 09:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 109
Default Re: Creek Gravel / Rock as temporary drive?

Who or what type of business carries the underlayment fabric? Ive got to do my driveway and I dont know who would have it.
Ken Cunningham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2008, 09:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
Gold Member
 
Flatheadyoungin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Southern, OH
Posts: 278
Default Re: Creek Gravel / Rock as temporary drive?

what about driving something heavy on it?
__________________
TC45 Shuttle, 270 hours, 758C backhoe, 16LA loader

Well, I looks like I just bought myself a lot of work.....
Flatheadyoungin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2008, 10:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: central, pa
Posts: 222
Default Re: Creek Gravel / Rock as temporary drive?

I run my diesel excursion with 20' loaded box trailer on it the oil delivery truck has been on it and it has left no ruts or visible damage to substrate. It was purchased at my local concrete plant who is also a highway contractor.

Brad
__________________
TC21D HYDRO R4S, AND TURFS , Woods LS84 FEL, NH 914A 60"MMM, HF QUICK HITCH, LEINBACH RB

I may not play the game, however I always know the final score.
bigshovel is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:08 PM.


HOME DISCUSSIONS PHOTOS REVIEWS CLASSIFIEDS DEALERS STORE
About TractorByNet.com | Terms of Service | Advertise | © 2008 TractorByNet.com