How much gravel under concrete?

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Mosey, would you mind taking a picture or two to share with us?

Thanks
 
   / How much gravel under concrete? #12  
<font color=blue>Sound guy. Your are quite correct in that you want to eliminate as many air voids as possible. What you need is incompressible material(rock) that fills voids with various sizes of diameter fitting in between the larger ones. And not a material that simply squeezes.

<font color=black>Very true. Using marshmellows was probably a bad choice of analogy for the situation... cerial would have been better. I was mainly trying to point out, as you did so eloquently, was the need to get rid of the air voids. Fines do that well.
Here in florida, we have so many different road construction process, it is hard to keep track of them all. For instance, in te county where I work, the county policy is no more slag roads out to bid by contractors, but that county road maint. crews can make them. Where as in say.. putnam county, the county is so poor, that their infrastructure is still mainly in place from the early 50's, and they are still using a large percentage of dirt roads, and roads constructed by the army corp. of eng's... heck.. they can hardly afford slag.. and regrading is just prolonging their eventual need for infrastructure improvements.
When we do DOT work sometimes, we use a metod called black base.

Esentially, you cut the subgrade into the native soil, and stabilize if necescary, then you lay a large lift of asphalt, instead of a subgrade material like limerock. The surface course and friction course of asphalt are applied as normal.
The cost for asphalt base is roughly the same as for a conventional limerock under asphalt road, with one exception. Time. A black base road can be cut and layed as you go, whereas conventional practices can take weeks.
We do many decel lanes as black base, and can do them usually in 1 day after prep is done.. saves bundles on maintenance of traffic.. and keeps the workers out of the drivers way.

Soundguy
 
   / How much gravel under concrete? #13  
It sounds like you have entirely different set of problems than our freeze/thaw in Michigan. Around here people say we have only two seasons. Winter and road construction season.
 
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Spencer - I'll try to get a picture or two. I don't think I'll have time to get to it until after Thanksgiving, though.
 
   / How much gravel under concrete? #15  
Yeah.. we rarely get frozen ground... but just enough to bust up our asphalt over afew years.

Soundguy
 
   / How much gravel under concrete? #16  
Here in New Hampshire we have four seasons -
Early Winter
Mid Winter
Late Winter and
Next Winter ....

Brad in NH
 
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Here are some pictures of the limestone. This first one shows the small ruts that the truck left. Hard to believe it was stuck when it didn't sink any more than this!
 

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Zoomed in shot of the limestone.
 

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This last picture is depressing. It didn't go as far as I thought and I'm still 6" low on the right hand side (according to my line level). It's hard to tell by looking at it because the concrete slab (that the pickup is parked on) has quite a bit of slope and drops about 1' in 20'. I needed twice as much as I thought. Now I don't know what to do! I guess I just need to admit I don't have a clue about what I'm doing.
 

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Danny, what did you tell the stone supplier you needed? I've been successful telling them what I wanted the stone for as well as the area and depth I needed. Then they compute the yards and tons. Also, why didn't they back up the driveway to dump the stone?
 
 
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