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    Default Barn Restoration

    I have started on a project never attempted before (by me). I have a late 1800's two story hay barn which has settled a good 6" on some of the sides. The main sill beam is completely gone. The ridge is good and straight and has not sagged too much at all if any. I stopped the continuing sagging by jacking up an inch or so and placing some rock and wood to prevent it. Next step is to form up some jacking points and pour some concrete mix. I was told that you have to do this very slowly and take some time or the slate roof will get damaged (I am heading that). It would help if I could get some pointers from the group. I have read a bit, but this forum is great.

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    Default Re: Barn Restoration

    I can't give you any advice but will follow your progress. It is great project and it will look great when finished. I love old barns how they were put together with wooden pins instead of bolts and nails. I think old barns should be saved.

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    Glad to see someone restoring an old barn. To many people ruin perfectly good barns by not keeping a good roof on them and ignoring painting them. In the late '70s and mid '80s I helped my dad rejuvenate barns on a couple of pieces of property he purchased (unfortunatly the 1890's house on one was beyond salvage).

    We used several (10-12) screw type house jacks and large (8"x8" posts I believe), and over a period of several days raised one of them over 12" to dig new footings, pour concrete, and make new sill plates. The key is to not get in a hurry. As I remember start to finish on each took between 45-60 days.

    Good luck on your project, and as always, work safely.

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    I am looking forward to this thread. Some day (year) I am going to rehab our old barn. The foundation walls are crumbling in some places and the 1st story walls are bowing out. The previous home owner had someone come in and install a couple of support posts and beams on the inside to stabilize it. Hopefully I can learn from your experiences.

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    Default Re: Barn Restoration

    I am in no rush and do have a good roof (had it patched last fall) new ridge cap left at the property. I actually have 4 barns, one was re-constructed by previous owner and one is really in need of help. I may just use for parts on barn #1 which I am rehabbing. It will be slow, the ground level floor is shot, but the second floor seems pretty good. This may be a long thread (time wise). Just stay posted and maybe you all can keep me motivated. This week coming is the jack points to be created.

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    I worked at a farm park that had a big barn built in the 1880's that had rotting sills and a foundation wall that collapsed and posts that were rotting out. We got it all repaired and repainted in 2006 so it should be good for another 100 years.
    Sorry I messed up in attaching these in any kind of order. The first picture is the new white oak sill installed. The siding was removed because most of it needed to be replaced also. 2) The barn when everything was completed and painted. 3) New siding put on. 4) Some of the old wide board siding was reused. 5) Battens were replace on much of the barn. 6) another view of the new sill. 7-9) Several of the posts were also rotten at the bottom, these photos show how they spliced in new wood to the old. Long lab screws were used to attached it to the sill.

    You have quite a project in front of you. The craftsmanship in these old barn is really worth saving. I marvel at the hand hewn beams in this barn that were perfectly square. The joints they made are amazing. Good luck with your project.
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    Default Re: Barn Restoration

    We bought a piece of property largely for the big gambrel roof barn several years ago. It was straight along the peak and we thought we could take our time getting to the roof.... Wrong! I started working the property around the barn to improve drainage, along with working on other buildings (mainly the house)... Long story short, the barn is gone and the bad roof is the reason why. Had I slapped some metal on there in 2003 when we bought it, it would be full of animals and hay today. Instead, its pieces have been used in other projects, including a neighbors tree-fort.
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    Default Re: Barn Restoration

    Ranger Rich, that is exactly what I have to do to the sill on the grade side. Why white oak, did you have that on site? I have the old house on site, but too close to the road for my liking to fix up. I can scavenge from it. Barn look great now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider43 View Post
    Ranger Rich, that is exactly what I have to do to the sill on the grade side. Why white oak, did you have that on site? I have the old house on site, but too close to the road for my liking to fix up. I can scavenge from it. Barn look great now.
    From what I was told White Oak is naturally resistant to rot. I looked it up apparently White Oak has structures in the wood called tyloses in the pores of the wood that prevent moisture from getting into the wood. Since the sill is sitting on the ground or close to it you do not want it to rot away in your lifetime. I have gotten White oak from a local saw mill in our area. They do not have it all of the time and I had to order weeks ahead to get the size cut that I needed.
    Rick

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    I am in the middle of a long term project of replacing the foundation, sills, etc in an 1800s barn (30 x 60). The sills on much of the barn were replaced already with dimensional lumber that has rotted away. I'm replacing these with 8x12" beams on top of a new poured concrete wall at least 8" above grade.

    Besides my BX24 the most useful tool I've had is Nick Engler's book "Renovating Old Barns". It covers everything from foundation to roof. Very hands on, clear and well illustrated. Good advice on options for jacking and shoring.

    Dave

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