amazincaucasian
Bronze Member
- Joined
- May 22, 2010
- Messages
- 95
- Location
- mo
- Tractor
- 2013 Kubota kx-121, 1988 Kubota L2202DT 1998, Bobcat 331 bobcat, F800 dump truck
After reading my post, I see I wasn't very clear on the hourly rates. I've always charged the same no matter what I'm doing. EXCEPT when I'm messing with trees. Trees fall the wrong way and crash windows and lights, breaking roots is hard on pins and bushings, and you get slapped in the face with branches and scratch your machine up. Last year a friend called and asked if I could help finish a job. Seems his operator was pulling up a stump with a PC200 and it came free and jumped in the cab with him, breaking his sternum. Doesn't matter how good an operator you are, stuff happens with trees. Sometimes it happens in yer lap. I know people will say it's part of it, but IF you can stay busy doing other things, I would. There's lots of jobs you can do with a mini excavator:
-small ditches
-septic tanks
-trenching for water lines, phone, electric, gas
-prep for concrete
-culvert installs
-placing rip rap for erosion control
-digging for geology studies
-digging graves
-bury livestock
They even have augers and compactors and who knows what else for these things!
Now the dump trailer is a good thing, but I think you'll wish you had a dump truck. They're lower and easy to load, but you can quickly wear out a pickup pulling that thing around loaded, and for the price of that truck you coulda had a single axle dump truck that's made to handle a load. Somethin you can haul a load AND pull yer machine to the job with at the same time. Just think about the specs on a dump trailer...you're hauling 7 tons, would you rather go down the road with a trailer that has 10 ply tires on 16" wheels, or 16 plys on 22.5's? Not being a smart-aleck, just giving you a perspective on it. I looked at them too when I started, but now after seeing and feeling how much 14,000 to 16,000 pounds is on a 2 ton, I'd kinda be scared of em. A friend of mine hauls cattle locally. From the mid 1980's till about 2000, he used dually pickups. Well they'd last a couple years, maybe three and he's shell a transmission or rear end and get a new one. Spent alot of time at the tire store too. Then he bought a wore-out F800 Cummins for under 10 and he's still driving it. I knows he's been running it hard for over 10 years and it was VERY used when he bought it.
That being said, if you use a dump truck or trailer along with your digger or loader, you can make double the money per hour. If you live out of town you have a great advantage. You can stockpile material for jobs, and sometimes stockpile dirt you got paid to haul away, then use it later to make mo money
Sorry bud I got carried away. Anyway, always be honest. That should go without saying. I picked up a storm shelter dealership last year and guess who most of my business came from? People I'd done jobs for previously. They saw I was dealing and installing tornado shelters and said, "Well that guy was dumb and kinda hillbilly, but he did what he said he was gonna do, showed up on time, and didn't gouge us or add any hidden fees". That goes a long way. Fast talk and big promises don't impress people around here. Probably anywhere. Word of mouth and all that good stuff....you know
When you hit a good lick, don't go blow the money on whistles and tin tooters. Go buy tools and equipment that'll make you more money.
-small ditches
-septic tanks
-trenching for water lines, phone, electric, gas
-prep for concrete
-culvert installs
-placing rip rap for erosion control
-digging for geology studies
-digging graves
-bury livestock
They even have augers and compactors and who knows what else for these things!
Now the dump trailer is a good thing, but I think you'll wish you had a dump truck. They're lower and easy to load, but you can quickly wear out a pickup pulling that thing around loaded, and for the price of that truck you coulda had a single axle dump truck that's made to handle a load. Somethin you can haul a load AND pull yer machine to the job with at the same time. Just think about the specs on a dump trailer...you're hauling 7 tons, would you rather go down the road with a trailer that has 10 ply tires on 16" wheels, or 16 plys on 22.5's? Not being a smart-aleck, just giving you a perspective on it. I looked at them too when I started, but now after seeing and feeling how much 14,000 to 16,000 pounds is on a 2 ton, I'd kinda be scared of em. A friend of mine hauls cattle locally. From the mid 1980's till about 2000, he used dually pickups. Well they'd last a couple years, maybe three and he's shell a transmission or rear end and get a new one. Spent alot of time at the tire store too. Then he bought a wore-out F800 Cummins for under 10 and he's still driving it. I knows he's been running it hard for over 10 years and it was VERY used when he bought it.
That being said, if you use a dump truck or trailer along with your digger or loader, you can make double the money per hour. If you live out of town you have a great advantage. You can stockpile material for jobs, and sometimes stockpile dirt you got paid to haul away, then use it later to make mo money
Sorry bud I got carried away. Anyway, always be honest. That should go without saying. I picked up a storm shelter dealership last year and guess who most of my business came from? People I'd done jobs for previously. They saw I was dealing and installing tornado shelters and said, "Well that guy was dumb and kinda hillbilly, but he did what he said he was gonna do, showed up on time, and didn't gouge us or add any hidden fees". That goes a long way. Fast talk and big promises don't impress people around here. Probably anywhere. Word of mouth and all that good stuff....you know
When you hit a good lick, don't go blow the money on whistles and tin tooters. Go buy tools and equipment that'll make you more money.