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    Default Re: Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days

    I wonder if it is a good idea to leave the blue styrofoam exposed to the to the atmosphere of the house after your mom moves in, particularly with an open spiral stairway?
    Not so much from any gases it might put off normally but from a fire protection aspect. Doesn't it say right on the board that it should not be exposed to any heat?
    Without any plasterboard installed won't there be a lot of cold transmitted into the basement from the concrete columns/studs. Is there a barrier built in to stop
    thermal short circuiting through each stud if plasterboard is left off?
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    Default Re: Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days

    I'm having dinner with her tonight. We'll have plenty to discuss! Lol!

    Went over to the site to check on that sealed concrete. Turns out that white stuff is just from cutting the expansion joints, so no worries there. I just couldn't quite tell when it was cold and icing the other day.

    Took my oldest girl with me. She wasn't quite sure what to make of the slab. lol



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    Default Re: Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days

    We could sure use some of that bright sunshine up here. Today's high 33 deg. and gloomy. Last year same date 78 deg.

    For discussion... page 10
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    Yes, the weather today was really nice! High in the mid 50's. Tomorrow should be the same. Talked to mom and we came up with a great solution to the stair issue. The solution? No stairs to the basement for now. The living room as small as it is, and stairs would just eat up too much of the valuable floor space. Down the road, we may add stairs from the 2nd bedroom to downstairs.

    So I called the builder, and he confirmed that code does not required stairs to the basement since it is walkout already. It is really not necessary in my mom's situation. I'd be the only one that would need to ever go there to flip a breaker or check on the air handler or water filter anyway.

    Builder said they plan to have the floor completed by the end of tomorrow!

    Trusses are still 2 weeks out... They got a lot of orders to fill right now.
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    Default Re: Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days

    Quote Originally Posted by pclausen View Post

    Builder said they plan to have the floor completed by the end of tomorrow!

    Trusses are still 2 weeks out... They got a lot of orders to fill right now.
    Too bad about the trusses. I would think that they will have the walls up by the end of the week. Are the trusses going to hold them up? Rick

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    Looking great

    Two other suggestions:

    Place the wall electrical outlets at 24" from floor - I believe that is ADA
    If installing a dishwasher, elevate it. You'd be surprised how much even 6" elevation will benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pclausen View Post
    Yes, the weather today was really nice! High in the mid 50's. Tomorrow should be the same. Talked to mom and we came up with a great solution to the stair issue. The solution? No stairs to the basement for now. The living room as small as it is, and stairs would just eat up too much of the valuable floor space. Down the road, we may add stairs from the 2nd bedroom to downstairs.

    So I called the builder, and he confirmed that code does not required stairs to the basement since it is walkout already. It is really not necessary in my mom's situation. I'd be the only one that would need to ever go there to flip a breaker or check on the air handler or water filter anyway.

    Builder said they plan to have the floor completed by the end of tomorrow!

    Trusses are still 2 weeks out... They got a lot of orders to fill right now.
    Maybe you could investigate putting the stairs to the basement in the garage rather than making the 2nd bedroom so small.
    I had a basement stairs in the garage of a little ranch house I bought right out of college back in 1964 and it was great.
    You might have to move the door that goes out to the patio a little to the right but maybe not. If you went down from the edge of that door to a pad at the bottom that would be before the door going into the laundry room on the main elevation and turned right through a door cut into the prefab wall.
    You already have the overdig pit. Block the staircase in or get prefab panels and pour the steps. Talk to SW about sawing through the wall panel and reinforcing it with a door jam.
    Looks like you have plenty of length in the garage. Back in 64 I had a big full sized station wagon on one side and a sting ray on the side where the stairs were and had plenty of room. Today's cars are much smaller.

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    Default Re: Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days

    Wow, what an awesome idea!

    So like this right?



    That wouldn't even mess with the floor they are putting in tomorrow.
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    Looks great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PILOON View Post
    I have done a fair bit of building and noticed that spiral saves very little floor cutout space.
    Also straight stair case allows for storage below while spiral only lets air (and dust) circulation.
    Where heating or cooling is a concern conventional allows a doorway to create zones.
    A house I was designing for my wife and me had a straight stair in the garage to the basement, and a spiral stair in an awkward space off the Great Room that was of little use for anything else. I could have put a residential elevator there in place of the spiral if need be. Anyway, I was planning on framing out a vestibule in the basement with a door to provide a finished appearance, knock down the noise and dust, and minimize the draft issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by pacerron View Post
    A little real experience on the safety issues.
    ...

    Here's the point....
    She got to the point first of needing to use a cane, then a walker, then a wheeled walker. This is a normal progression for many folks as they age, long before a wheelchair. As folks loose their dexterity and muscle they take smaller steps and shuffle. She could navigate on the large square tile floors and the smaller one in our kitchen like a wiz. The problem was the carpet.. just the opposite of what you think.

    ...

    I could write a book, but my main point here is the floor covering is important but none of it is a panacea.
    As for carpeting, we have a tight small weave Berber with thin pad that is somewhat similar to commercial office carpeting. When it comes time to replace the stuff, we'll consider something similar again or commercial office carpeting. Having a plush pile and squishy pad underneath may feel luxurious when one is younger; but it can feel like a landlubber being on a boat for the first time waiting until they get their sea-legs as one get older.

    Quote Originally Posted by pclausen View Post
    Took my oldest girl with me. She wasn't quite sure what to make of the slab. lol



    Your Mom is quite young looking for her age.

    Quote Originally Posted by pclausen View Post
    Yes, the weather today was really nice! High in the mid 50's. Tomorrow should be the same. Talked to mom and we came up with a great solution to the stair issue. The solution? No stairs to the basement for now. The living room as small as it is, and stairs would just eat up too much of the valuable floor space. Down the road, we may add stairs from the 2nd bedroom to downstairs.

    So I called the builder, and he confirmed that code does not required stairs to the basement since it is walkout already. It is really not necessary in my mom's situation. I'd be the only one that would need to ever go there to flip a breaker or check on the air handler or water filter anyway.

    Builder said they plan to have the floor completed by the end of tomorrow!

    Trusses are still 2 weeks out... They got a lot of orders to fill right now.
    I'd seriously reconsider not putting stairs into the basement. Adding them later is going to be a major PITA, a huge disruption in your Mom's routine assuming she is still with you when the stairs are added. Not having stairs is like having the 1-car garage you were originally planning on...it will make the eventual sale of the house very difficult.

    Quote Originally Posted by pacerron View Post
    Maybe you could investigate putting the stairs to the basement in the garage rather than making the 2nd bedroom so small.
    This is an excellent idea, and is why I planned on the straight stairs to the basement to be accessed via the garage in the house I was designing. I believe TBN member KennyD has a stairwell to his basement located in the garage. I don't know if it's his only stairwell or not.


    Now I'll finish this post with three quotes. The first is from my Mom, who I miss very much, "Getting old sucks!" The second quote is mine, "The older they get, the more like kids they become." The third quote is a paraphrase of a Dilbert book title, "Getting old...no place for wimps."
    Paraphrasing Douglas Adams - So long and thanks for all the bacon.

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