mjncad
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Wood.
I have been meaning to ask about recommendations for that. I'm looking for a very plain look, maybe open with no glass doors, but I do want a blower motor to circulate the heat out out into the house instead of 90% going right up the chimney! The builder said he can get a plain insert with a blower motor for around $200. Does that sound like a decent setup? I really don't know much about fire places, but would like to get something that will be as efficient as possible without spending a fortune. This will primarily be decorative, but in the case of a major outage, it would be nice to have the ability to keep the entire house somewhat warm from this one heat source if possible.
I think the outdoor AC unit sitting in the corner of the master bathroom will be the best location, given the choices. The opposite corner is no really an option as that will be below the wrap around deck where the dirt will be sloping at a 45 degree angle. Here's a rough sketch of what the wrap around rear deck will be like and how it connects with the terrace.
The deck itself will be composite (Trex I believe is what the builder mentioned), and the railing will be this style (Handiswage):
I'm open to recommendations on both the decking and railing as that has not yet been ordered. I have heard good and bad things about the Trex, like mold and other things, but that is all in the past now? Aluminum decking might be an option, but I think it is even more expensive that composite? As for the railing, we're looking for something almost invisible for the view, but not frame-less (or framed) glass, so this thin steel cabling seems like a good choice.
Wow! Are you sure about that? Granted, the home will have generator backup, but I absolutely love my gas insert. Since I do not currently have a genset, it has saved my a** more than a few times during power outages. What I love about it is that is just works - all that I have to do is flip a switch to turn it on - even with no power. I have had it for 12 years and it has not let me down. The only maintenance I have done is to remove the fake logs and paint the interior with black header paint about a year ago. Since your Mom is getting older, I would suggest that you give that some more thought. Being able to flip a switch versus building/stoking a fire is a huge difference. Back before I had my gas insert, I used to have a HeatOLater wood insert with fan. It worked great, but I got tired of loading it up after about 2 years.
Also, if you want anything mildly effecient, it should have doors and the convection should do the rest.
-Stu
s219, love that Heat & Glow, not to mention the stonework behind it!
You guys are right, need glass door to control the air flow. I'm thinking of 30 years ago when you had a flute in the chimney.
Stu, I hear you on the gas option, but I have absolutely hated the unvented gas fireplace I have at my place, and mom, being from Scandinavia, is not likely to embrace a "fake" fireplace. It will only be used on special occasions, so I think the extra effort to get it going, and being that you're burning real wood, make it that much more "special". And if there is crazy storm, having a indefinitely replenishable heat source at hand is a bonus.
Pete:
I like the wrap around deck leading to the terrace. That will be so nice! I'm including this link to a local deck supplier as it lists a number of brands of composite decking. The Deck Superstore | Colorado's Leader In Deck Products About the only gripe I've heard with composite decking besides the price is some people have said they are hot under bare feet in direct sunlight. Personally, I'd go with composite decking as the up front costs will disappear each and every time you don't have to refinish a wood deck or replace rotted boards. Remember, as your Mom gets older, so do you and she will be counting on you to take care of her place. Make your life as easy as possible maintenance wise.
Another variation on Obed's powder coated ballusters that I've seen done is to use 1/2" or 3/4" copper plumbing pipe, and let it weather to a natural verdigris green. Of course this option isn't as cost effective as Obed's; but it does give a different look that is maintenance free. Just remember, code requires that ballusters and/or rails be spaced no further than 4" apart, or as I recall the fancy wording..."that a 4" sphere can not pass through."
Even if your Mom prefers wood fires now; there is a lot to be said for a gas fireplace. The old school pilot light with thermocouple fireplaces work without electricity. There is no mess, no ash, no mice hiding in the wood, less chance of a house fire, no creosote, no maintenance, etc with a gas fireplace. Due to pollution ordinances, only gas fireplaces can be installed in my area. You might check your area to see if similar restrictions are in place. $200 for any fireplace insert regardless of type seems way too low. I suspect a zero was accidentally left off, and it's $2,000.
Another thought with the fireplace is choose carefully where you place the house's thermostat. Ours is a little too close to the fireplace and on the occasions we use it, enough heat is generated in the room to trick the thermostat into thinking the house is toasty, which means the rest of the house is cold as the furnace isn't running. We don't have a fireplace blower; but for all I know our issue could be worse yet if we did have a blower.