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    Default Need some tree experts help

    I'm not sure if i put this in the right section or not. Its a project but if there is a place for tree related questions free feel to move it.

    Okay here is my deal.
    I live on a dirt road and i do not have a long lane its yard ditch road so what i'm going to do it plant a couple rows of trees right along the ditch line for two reasons.
    1. to cut down on the dust rolling up.
    2. privacy so its a little harder to look in the front windows of the house when driving past.

    i'm thinking 150 200 trees. will be using my 3pt posthole auger to dig all these crazy holes.

    Now for my question what i want to do is stagger the trees. So the first row space them every three feet than behind them about 5 foot do anther row 3 foot spacing but opposite the first row so they fill in each others 3 foot gap so when they get big you cant see through them.

    The Trees i want to use are
    Dogwood for the bush line in the front
    Than Cedar for the back line.
    Does anyone know if Cedar and Dogwood grow well together? i know some trees cant be planted next to each other.

    I've attached a picture showing what i'm thinking.
    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Need some tree experts help

    My two cents:

    I don't know if the two trees grow well together but I do think your spacing is way too close. I did almost the same thing as you've described - that is, place one row staggered behind the other and I went five deep. The difference is, I used Deodora cedar trees only and spaced them about 12 feet apart. It looked pretty sparse when they were only one foot high but it turns out the spacing was right on now that they have grown. At three foot spacing, they may look far enough apart when they are saplings but as they grow, you might find yourself removing every other tree and perhaps repeating that process as they grow more.
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    Default Re: Need some tree experts help

    ^+1 what Dennis said.
    I'm no expert, but I'd give them some breathing room.
    For a small tree, a mature dogwood can have a fairly large crown - maybe 30 ft diameter - it's a "full bodied" tree.
    Choose your dogwood variety carefully - we had some kind of blight that ravaged them in our area.
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    Default Re: Need some tree experts help

    Also you need to take into account your soil type. Dogwood can be finicky about that.
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    Default Re: Need some tree experts help

    Good stuff thanks guys. I have a soil table map of my place so i think soil wise i'm good other than on the right side before that old tree like i circled in red is a wallnut tree and those stupid things kill every other tree near them thats why my grove has bare patches. Now days i cut down or pull walnut suckers when i see them.
    I think for the red dogwood the 3 foot spacing might be ok i want to to grow and tangle together but maybe cedars i double ot triple the spacing
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    Default Re: Need some tree experts help

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRaptor View Post
    I think for the red dogwood the 3 foot spacing might be ok i want to to grow and tangle together but maybe cedars i double ot triple the spacing
    My vineyards vines are 7 foot apart - and I think that's a foot closer than I'd like. I can't imagine one tree being only 3 foot from another. A Red Dogwood will grow 25 foot high AND 25 foot wide at maturity. They also require full sun, so if you plant them too close they'll not do well at all. Here's a site showing the trees requirements: www.arborday.org
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    Default Re: Need some tree experts help

    Red Cedar and Native dogwoods grow all over Missouri and Kansas. Ive spent more than I care to think killing and cutting both in pasture

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    Default Re: Need some tree experts help

    If its on the side of the road look for salt tolerant trees. With that being said I have dog woods running down the bank infront of our house, then I planted Forsythia (actually just the cuttings from other forsythia stuck in the ground). and then I have a row of pine trees. On the side facing the house I have hazelnuts running in front of the pine and will enter plant blueberrys once the hazelnuts get to their full size.
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    Default Re: Need some tree experts help

    I have eastern red cedar and dogwood growing wild in close proximity.

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    Default Re: Need some tree experts help

    Thank you guys. I'll research on the spacing more. upside is the more spacing the less trees i have to buy. Win Win.

    End goal is to close it in and not be able to see the road or have people see up onto the place.

    I dont think roadsalt should be a problem the ditch is pretty deep so plowed snow never comes close to the treeline. also its a dirt road i dont think i've ever seen salt on the road. But worth noting though still.
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