ok got a little more time to describe the events,pic 1 & 2 are at the place where I got them the guy said they are 2800#s a piece and they loaded them all at once man what an impressive fork lift they had. pic 3 was when I got home and backed in a stump hole needless to say even with four wheel drive I could not pull that load out. I went inside and got something to eat and I thought I'll call my father in law and get him to come look at how I got stuck, 3 hours later he said he'll never fall for that trick again. pic 4 is the way I had to unload them there is a metal ramp under the pad and as I pull back on the pad it slid down the ramp no problem. worked so good the first time I did it five more times. now they are on the ground as you can see in the last two pics