mx842
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- Feb 26, 2011
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- Richmond Va
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- Kubota L3301, PowerKing 2414, John Deere 316, Gravely ZT HD 52
As old Junior Samples used to say, ifin' it wernt fer bad luck....I'd have no luck at all. I'm still cleaning up around the place from the last hurricane almost two years ago. Here lately I have been trying to divide my time between working on my pole barn project and completing boo boo's that happened during that storm. Since that time we have had several other storms with high winds and a lot of rain that have taken out several more large trees in the yard. It seems just about the time that I might see light at the end of the tunnel something else happens.
I still haven't been able to rebuild my Koi pond and have been doing the best I can to keep my fish alive with only half a pond. This weekend I decided to spend the whole weekend working around the house trying to reclaim my yard back from the wild. Warm weather is coming and I wanted to clean up around the house and do a spring cleaning on what is left of my pond. Clean the leafs off the bottom and clean out the two big temp filters I had to put in after the other ones got smashed by a big oak tree. Everything was going along well but once the filters were clean and about half of the water in the pond was drained out and I started to refill the pond with fresh well water I noticed it was taking a real long time to fill the pond. Normally it would take a little over two hours to fill the 2000 gal pond and now I have less than half that amount of water in it and when I went back to check the water lever it still was not full. At first I thought I had left the drains on the filters open but they were shut off and I didn't see any water flowing anywhere so I checked the fill valve and the water was hardly coming out, I mean, I could pee more water than was coming out the valve. After checking everything I noticed the pump cycling more than normal so I figured my expansion tank was bloated but even if the tank was waterlogged I still should be seeing more pressure than was coming out of the fill pipe.
So I went out and pulled the top off the well and it wasn't long before I found the problem. The well had filled in and the pump was buried under 3 feet of mucky silt. I'm surprised it worked at all but it was still doing the best it could. I thought I would break my back trying to free the pump out of the mud but after 10 minutes of grunting and straining and at one time I thought I had stained my shorts the pump finally broke free of it's watery grave. I pulled it up a couple feet off the bottom and tied it off then went in and got a string line with a heavy fishing sinker on the end to measure how much water I had left.
When I had that well dug we had water coming in at around 35' and at 42' he hit a pretty good stream then at 55' a river flowed in he went down 12 more feet and stacked three well curbs on top of the last curb right at the ground level and left them there until the next day. He ordered concrete to seal off the sides of the curbs and set it up for the next day. When he came back in the morning those stacked curbs he left had settled down to within 6" of the ground level so he added a couple more and left them there until the concrete came. They had settled all they were going to so he removed the two full curbs and put on a half curb and filled in around the outside of the curbs with concrete, told me to throw in a gal of bleach and put the top on. The next day they inspected the well and the well man measured the water level and depth. It was 66' feet to the bottom of the well and the well had right at 31' of water in it. He told me other than maybe a well pump you will never have a problem with this well as long as you are here, there will always be plenty of water for anything you want to do.
Well fast forward to the last hurricane the knocked 3 big oak trees over and they all three landed on the well. The top was broken but luckily it didn't fall in and I got it off and replaced the top. I thought the pump had gone bad too and got the insurance company to replace it but I later found out that one of the big trees had broken the wire going to the well when the root ball came up. I never figured out why I had voltage to the wire going down to the pump but it wouldn't run the pump motor. I had already pulled the pump and dropped the new one in when that one wouldn't run either. there was voltage on the meter but it just wouldn't run the motor. Later I found the bad wire and replaced it and all was good. I also checked the old one and it worked so I pulled out the new one and put the old one back in service and kept the new one for a spare.
At that time when I measured the water the well had filled in about 6' and had 25' of water in it and it took 19 years for it to fill in 6' so I figured the well man was right with it only filling in 6' in 20 years and even if I live another 30 years I should be good to go. Well something went wrong cause now there is only 12' of water in the well and it filled in 12' or more in less than 2 years.
As I said I raised the pump but how long is that going to last at that rate of filling in. It was dark as heck last night when I was looking into the well and could not really see if surface water has been entering in around the upper curbs. I know it was sealed well because they dumped 6 yards of concrete around the curbs before it stopped taking any more and I had to find a place to dump the remaining 2 yards left on the truck. There did seem to be a wet spot at one of the joints down about 12' but last night it was just too dark to tell anything.
It's been raining this morning but as soon as it clears a little I'm going to investigate a little more to see what I can find. I'm worried that when those trees fell on on the well they somehow broke the seal without crushing the curbs although it doesn't appear to have pushed the top curb into the ground cause there is still a good seal at the surface. Next assuming surface water is the cause of the fill in once I seal everything up again how the heck will I ever get the silt out of the well down to an acceptable level again?
I still haven't been able to rebuild my Koi pond and have been doing the best I can to keep my fish alive with only half a pond. This weekend I decided to spend the whole weekend working around the house trying to reclaim my yard back from the wild. Warm weather is coming and I wanted to clean up around the house and do a spring cleaning on what is left of my pond. Clean the leafs off the bottom and clean out the two big temp filters I had to put in after the other ones got smashed by a big oak tree. Everything was going along well but once the filters were clean and about half of the water in the pond was drained out and I started to refill the pond with fresh well water I noticed it was taking a real long time to fill the pond. Normally it would take a little over two hours to fill the 2000 gal pond and now I have less than half that amount of water in it and when I went back to check the water lever it still was not full. At first I thought I had left the drains on the filters open but they were shut off and I didn't see any water flowing anywhere so I checked the fill valve and the water was hardly coming out, I mean, I could pee more water than was coming out the valve. After checking everything I noticed the pump cycling more than normal so I figured my expansion tank was bloated but even if the tank was waterlogged I still should be seeing more pressure than was coming out of the fill pipe.
So I went out and pulled the top off the well and it wasn't long before I found the problem. The well had filled in and the pump was buried under 3 feet of mucky silt. I'm surprised it worked at all but it was still doing the best it could. I thought I would break my back trying to free the pump out of the mud but after 10 minutes of grunting and straining and at one time I thought I had stained my shorts the pump finally broke free of it's watery grave. I pulled it up a couple feet off the bottom and tied it off then went in and got a string line with a heavy fishing sinker on the end to measure how much water I had left.
When I had that well dug we had water coming in at around 35' and at 42' he hit a pretty good stream then at 55' a river flowed in he went down 12 more feet and stacked three well curbs on top of the last curb right at the ground level and left them there until the next day. He ordered concrete to seal off the sides of the curbs and set it up for the next day. When he came back in the morning those stacked curbs he left had settled down to within 6" of the ground level so he added a couple more and left them there until the concrete came. They had settled all they were going to so he removed the two full curbs and put on a half curb and filled in around the outside of the curbs with concrete, told me to throw in a gal of bleach and put the top on. The next day they inspected the well and the well man measured the water level and depth. It was 66' feet to the bottom of the well and the well had right at 31' of water in it. He told me other than maybe a well pump you will never have a problem with this well as long as you are here, there will always be plenty of water for anything you want to do.
Well fast forward to the last hurricane the knocked 3 big oak trees over and they all three landed on the well. The top was broken but luckily it didn't fall in and I got it off and replaced the top. I thought the pump had gone bad too and got the insurance company to replace it but I later found out that one of the big trees had broken the wire going to the well when the root ball came up. I never figured out why I had voltage to the wire going down to the pump but it wouldn't run the pump motor. I had already pulled the pump and dropped the new one in when that one wouldn't run either. there was voltage on the meter but it just wouldn't run the motor. Later I found the bad wire and replaced it and all was good. I also checked the old one and it worked so I pulled out the new one and put the old one back in service and kept the new one for a spare.
At that time when I measured the water the well had filled in about 6' and had 25' of water in it and it took 19 years for it to fill in 6' so I figured the well man was right with it only filling in 6' in 20 years and even if I live another 30 years I should be good to go. Well something went wrong cause now there is only 12' of water in the well and it filled in 12' or more in less than 2 years.
As I said I raised the pump but how long is that going to last at that rate of filling in. It was dark as heck last night when I was looking into the well and could not really see if surface water has been entering in around the upper curbs. I know it was sealed well because they dumped 6 yards of concrete around the curbs before it stopped taking any more and I had to find a place to dump the remaining 2 yards left on the truck. There did seem to be a wet spot at one of the joints down about 12' but last night it was just too dark to tell anything.
It's been raining this morning but as soon as it clears a little I'm going to investigate a little more to see what I can find. I'm worried that when those trees fell on on the well they somehow broke the seal without crushing the curbs although it doesn't appear to have pushed the top curb into the ground cause there is still a good seal at the surface. Next assuming surface water is the cause of the fill in once I seal everything up again how the heck will I ever get the silt out of the well down to an acceptable level again?