Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario

   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #101  
I bet most if not all of those shot at the movies in Colorado were "super consumers" and so to make the world a better place through protecting the environment the nice man with a gun removed some of the spoilers of our pristine world. And the difference between this and you yearning to push the button is what?

Pat

Good Morning, I went out last night and worked on the tractor and came away enjoying the outdoors. Visited with the neighbor and all is right with the world.
You asserted again in your post that someone pushing a button would kill millions? Why is that necessary? Who says that will occur?
I would never want to use the tragedy of Aurora to make any point - but it was pointed out again this morning - that the movie theater is a gun-free zone, and Aurora has strict gun laws already. Perhaps if the patrons had the ability to defend themselves - the tragedy could have ended sooner. The real issue is the known event - the bad guys ignore the rules.
There are always different ways to look at any situation.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #102  
I think a lot of people that are alive today should not be alive...survival of the fittest has turned into being a parasite on society nowadays. This is an unsustainable path. I think the market will push "the button" long before any human would ever have the chance to do that. Big changes in lifestyles are coming and it isn't going to be for the better. We have created a world where reality takes a back seat to some fantasy dreamed up by our politicians and those that continue to elect them for "free" stuff and so that the gov't will always take care of them.

My $0.02

Social Darwinism. The concept of survival of the fittest no longer apply.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #103  
I studied trying to create such a button for a day or two. It is pretty hard to accomplish that because it seemed to take a great deal of power. And the triggering was destructive to the device being contemplated, and it did involve an explosive too. So feasibility was in doubt, and so was practical covert deployment. And the vehicle targeted could go out of control, whereas I only wanted to destroy automotive stereo system.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #104  
There are plenty of real buttons all over the world that could be pushed just a matter of time. I am more concerned with the real life aspect of surviving one of those just sayin... my .002 ymmv as always
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #105  
Yes life was more difficult as far as medical and survival. The technology trend is whats scaring me. Right now technology is steering towards total control of each and every human being on earth. Facebook and such is just in its infancy as are drones etc. All of these are designed to controll you. Sure its not meant to be that way at the moment but what happens when you have 7 billion people connected? Movie trend usually depicts technology suddenly becoming self aware and wiping out humans-while that may be possible, the most likely scenario is that a few humans or the one human will use it to take over the world and abolish freedom in order to stay in power.

I tell you as an information technology specialist that I see the trend with technology and the trend is for the supposad good of mankind and its supposed to make mankinds life easier but its not. I work 50 60 hours a week and I am constanly on call so I have no life thanks to technology. I can only look forward to retirement if the stress and lack of sleep doesnt kill me first.

Enjoy life and what freedom you have-especially you youngsters just getting into life because technolgy will be the method used to enslave the many by only a few.

I dont blame technology itself just the few who will use it to control the many-its the human way. Not just computer technology but medical technology as well. Alot of people I know are on some type of mind altering drug already.

I want freedom, I want individuality, I want purpose-I dont want to be a zombie of technology and our stupid government.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #106  
I think a lot of people that are alive today should not be alive...survival of the fittest has turned into being a parasite on society nowadays. This is an unsustainable path. I think the market will push "the button" long before any human would ever have the chance to do that. Big changes in lifestyles are coming and it isn't going to be for the better. We have created a world where reality takes a back seat to some fantasy dreamed up by our politicians and those that continue to elect them for "free" stuff and so that the gov't will always take care of them.

My $0.02

Not to get too far off subject here, but this is "the button" I was referring to. Things will be changing and you will get to see first hand what happens in urban areas (and other areas, of course) when society starts to break down. I don't think it is going to be pretty and this is much milder than "the button" the OP is referencing.

The world economy faces considerable uncertainty in the short term. Will the eurozone manage to sort out its problems and avert a breakup? Will the United States engineer a path to renewed growth? Will China find a way to reverse its economic slowdown?

The answers to these questions will determine how the global economy evolves over the next few years. But, regardless of how these immediate challenges are resolved, it is clear that the world economy is entering a difficult new longer-term phase as well one that will be substantially less hospitable to economic growth than possibly any other period since the end of World War II.

Regardless of how they handle their current difficulties, Europe and America will emerge with high debt, low growth rates, and contentious domestic politics. Even in the best-case scenario, in which the euro remains intact, Europe will be bogged down with the demanding task of rebuilding its frayed union. And, in the US, ideological polarization between Democrats and Republicans will continue to paralyze economic policy.

Indeed, in virtually all advanced economies, high levels of inequality, strains on the middle class, and aging populations will fuel political strife in a context of unemployment and scarce fiscal resources. As these old democracies increasingly turn inward, they will become less helpful partners internationally less willing to sustain the multilateral trading system and more ready to respond unilaterally to economic policies elsewhere that they perceive as damaging to their interests.

Meanwhile, large emerging markets such as China, India, and Brazil are unlikely to fill the void, as they will remain keen to protect their national sovereignty and room to maneuver. As a result, the possibilities for global cooperation on economic and other matters will recede further.

This is the kind of global environment that diminishes every countryç—´ potential growth. The safe bet is that we will not see a return to the kind of growth that the world especially the developing world experienced in the two decades before the financial crisis. It is an environment that will produce deep disparities in economic performance around the world. Some countries will be much more adversely affected than others.

Those that do relatively better will share three characteristics. First, they will not be weighed down by high levels of public debt. Second, they will not be overly reliant on the world economy, and their engine of economic growth will be internal rather than external. Finally, they will be robust democracies.

Having low to moderate levels of public debt is important, because debt levels that reach 80-90% of GDP become a serious drag on economic growth. They immobilize fiscal policy, lead to serious distortions in the financial system, trigger political fights over taxation, and incite costly distributional conflicts. Governments preoccupied with reducing debt are unlikely to undertake the investments needed for long-term structural change. With few exceptions (such as Australia and New Zealand), the vast majority of the worldç—´ advanced economies are or will soon be in this category.

Many emerging-market economies, such as Brazil and Turkey, have managed to rein in the growth of public debt this time around. But they have not prevented a borrowing binge in their private sectors. Since private debts have a way of turning into public liabilities, a low government-debt burden might not, in fact, provide these countries with the cushion that they think they have.

Countries that rely excessively on world markets and global finance to fuel their economic growth will also be at a disadvantage. A fragile world economy will not be hospitable to large net foreign borrowers (or large net foreign lenders). Countries with large current-account deficits (such as Turkey) will remain hostage to skittish market sentiment. Those with large surpluses (such as China) will be under increasing pressure including the threat of retaliation to rein in their �ercantilist policies.

Domestic demand-led growth will be a more reliable strategy than export-led growth. That means that countries with a large domestic market and a prosperous middle class will have an important advantage.

Finally, democracies will do better because they have the institutionalized mechanisms of conflict management that authoritarian regimes lack. Democracies such as India may seem at times to move too slowly and be prone to paralysis. But they provide the arenas of consultation, cooperation, and give-and-take among opposing social groups that are crucial in times of turbulence and shocks.

In the absence of such institutions, distributive conflict can easily spill over into protests, riots, and civil disorder. This is where democratic India and South Africa have the upper hand over China or Russia. Countries that have fallen into the grip of autocratic leaders for example, Argentina and Turkey are also increasingly at a disadvantage.

An important indicator of the magnitude of the new global economyç—´ challenges is that so few countries satisfy all three requirements. Indeed, some of the most spectacular economic success stories of our time China in particular fail to meet more than one. It will be a difficult time for all. But some think Brazil, India, and South Korea will be in a better position than the rest.

ゥ Project Syndicate

About Dani Rodrik

Dani Rodrik is Professor of Political Economy at Harvard Universityç—´ John F. Kennedy School of Government and the first recipient of the Social Science Research Councilç—´ Albert O. Hirschman Prize. His latest book is One Economics, Many Recipes: Globalization, Institutions, and Economic Growth.

The New Global Economy
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #107  
I'm not surprised this thread has gotten to see who could urinate higher on the wall.

But it is a thread that should get y'all thinking.

Do you have enough food, fuel, water etc to last a year? My Grandfather was a Mormon and instilled that in me. Then once I had my "year" of supplies built up, I just started "rotating" the supplies.

Nowadays I also need the ammo and firepower to protect it, and I'm working on that.

If TSHTF I, and many of my nearby close relatives (doctors and dentists) are ready. If the transformers fry we've got generators and fuel. If the "hordes" come we've got the firepower for protection. Of course I'll probably start breaking the law by killing some deer OUT OF SEASON that are around my workshop.

But I am surprised at the amount of whining going on here.
From the OP:

There is a satellite network which is capable of permanently shutting down all electrical machinery and appliances of any kind. The satellite network is controlled by a computer, which is controlled by a small hand-held remote device.

Enter a code then push a button and that's it. No electrical power grid, no TV, no internet, no cell phones, no cars, no nothing. We would effectively and permanently be thrown back into the stone age within seconds.

Would you push the button?

Now I didn't read WHERE it was laid out how someone could
permanently shutting down all electrical machinery and appliances of any kind
if it's not running at the time. Most EMP scenarios I know of rely on the equipment being connected or running. But from some brief readings it seems there's a high likelihood my tractor and diesel non-computerized vehicles would work. My Jetta TDI would be toast.

So how many of y'all have equipment that won't be affected? A years supply of food, meds and fuel? And the weaponry to protect it.

If you don't it's time to stock up. Unless you don't plan on living another year and will never use it up.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #108  
I am there been a prepper since before prepping was cool just made perfect sense to be ready for anything I could prepare for within reason.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #109  
I am there been a prepper since before prepping was cool just made perfect sense to be ready for anything I could prepare for within reason.

Plan for the worst, hope for the best, and try to steer in between the rocks.
 
   / Hypothetical Doomsday Scenario #110  
One of the reasons I'm on this site is because I want to turn the property we have into a place that produces a good amount of food and away from urban areas strictly because I do see the need for it as society continues to break down around me...
 
 
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