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    Crash and HS,
    You can tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, or even tell me I couldn't find light at the end of a tunnel, you can criticize a popular personality like Al Gore BUT you can not call me insulting names like you both have done.

    If you do that all you have done is point a finger at your own in ability to defend your position with logic and reason. When anyone calls names it only establishes intellectual bankruptcy on their part.

    When you tell someone to "shut their mouth" you are only admitting your own lack of answers. Anger only solidifies a total failure or logic.

    Maybe we could return to civility? It's been a good discussion so far until you both started this.

    I see HS removed his insulting post.. good, let's return to a civil discussion.

    Thank you,
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    When will you GULLIBLE warming nuts realize who started this GULLIBLE WARMING , and who is making money from it.

    Smartest Guy in the Room | Washington Free Beacon

    John Kerry痴 net worth as listed on his 2011 financial disclosure form is at least $193 million and likely much higher, making him the wealthiest member of the Senate. He is also a prolific investor, maintaining an array of stocks and other holdings through a mix of family trusts, marital trusts, and commingled fund accounts with his wife, Big Ketchup baroness Teresa Heinz.

    The five-term Senator has a well-documented history of investing in companies that would benefit from policies he supports, as well as making conveniently timed and highly profitable trades coinciding with the passage of major legislation and, in some cases, the dissemination of privileged information.

    For years, Kerry has invested millions in a number of green energy companies that have benefitted from the president痴 efforts to aggressively subsidize the industry with taxpayer dollars.

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    It is MHO that global warming is caused by all the hot air created from threads on global warming. Just a theory I got but it does seem to be working

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combustix View Post
    It is MHO that global warming is caused by all the hot air created from threads on global warming. Just a theory I got but it does seem to be working
    You realize that if your theory is correct you are contributing to global warming....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat_Driver View Post
    When will you GULLIBLE warming nuts realize who started this GULLIBLE WARMING , and who is making money from it.

    Smartest Guy in the Room | Washington Free Beacon

    John Kerry— net worth as listed on his 2011 financial disclosure form is at least $193 million and likely much higher, making him the wealthiest member of the Senate. He is also a prolific investor, maintaining an array of stocks and other holdings through a mix of family trusts, marital trusts, and commingled fund accounts with his wife, Big Ketchup baroness Teresa Heinz.

    The five-term Senator has a well-documented history of investing in companies that would benefit from policies he supports, as well as making conveniently timed and highly profitable trades coinciding with the passage of major legislation and, in some cases, the dissemination of privileged information.

    For years, Kerry has invested millions in a number of green energy companies that have benefitted from the president— efforts to aggressively subsidize the industry with taxpayer dollars.
    Halliburton got no bid contracts in Iraq, bilked the US, got caught, bilked the US, got caught, etc.

    The Raw Story | Cheney's Halliburton stock options rose 3,281% last year, senator finds

    "Halliburton has already raked in more than $20 billion from the Bush-Cheney Administration for work in Iraq, and they were awarded some of the first Katrina contracts," Lautenberg said in a statement. "It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it. The Vice President should sever his financial ties to Halliburton once and for all.

    Cheney continues to hold 433,333 Halliburton stock options. The company has been criticized by auditors for its handling of a no-bid contact in Iraq. Auditors found the firm marked up meal prices for troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. The company built the American prison at Guantanamo Bay.
    "

    Oil and the Bush Administration

    Last year, Vice President Dick Cheney hosted a series of meetings with a group of energy industry representatives and lobbyists. From these meetings, the Bush administration unveiled a controversial National Energy Plan, which consisted chiefly of $33 billion in public subsidies and tax cuts for the oil, coal, and nuclear power industries, as well as provisions to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for industrial oil drilling.
    For months, Vice President Cheney refused to release the names of participants, citing presidential privilege to conduct consultations in private. However, Congress's non-partisan investigative and oversight arm, the General Accounting Office (GAO), filed an unprecedented lawsuit to obtain the names of the industrialists who met with the Bush Administration to shape his National Energy Plan. Environmentalists filed suit as well. The names of the industry experts are finally, if slowly, being released, revealing that the administration had given environmental groups only three days to provide input in writing, while meeting in person with the energy lobby time after time.
    One participant was grudgingly revealed by Cheney early on: Former Enron CEO and George W Bush's most generous campaign contributor, Kenneth Lay Cheney admitted that he and/or his staff met at least six times with Lay on energy policy issues. Congressmember Henry Waxman (D-CA) subsequently identified 17 different provisions of the Bush National Energy Plan bill that would have benefited Enron. At least one Executive Order on energy policy was virtually identical to draft proposals submitted by the American Petroleum Institute.


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    I like big oil. They heat my home, make my tractor and cars and trucks run, keep my home cool, my water hot. They provide all the chemicals that make all other industries viable. What I don't like is someone telling me how great solar and wind are, and demand they be supported, they provide nothing! When I go to the gas station tonight at 2am it's not wind and solar who are there with a station to fill my tank and make my life better, it's oil, big oil. I miss having a president who understands oil, the country, the world runs on oil, those who are against oil are against our way of life. I don't like having a President who is always the dumbest the guy in the room. Halliburton is a national asset. Those companies are America and Americans, when you bash big oil and halliburton you are bashing American's. These companies making money is good, if the VP has stock options that's fine with me. What scares me is when the President gives tax payers money to a solar company, who turns around and donates it to the same presidents campaign. That's criminal.

    HS
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    Quote Originally Posted by crash325 View Post
    your as phony as a $3 bill with Clinton's picture on it and as big a liar as Obama. Get off your high horse and quit looking down your nose at normal people. Those that do actually recycle and try live without making excess pollution.



    Stupidity - We get cfl bulbs and save energy - All you do is move pollution to China. And import mercury.

    Lets all stock up on LED bulbs at only $50 each - Yes the Gov just gave a co. $100,000 to develop and affordable LED bulb - By the way it will be made in China.

    Lets all run out and get a new TV (made in China) and save the planet. My TV's don't have tubes they are not that old and are power by transistors.

    "We are All Sick from Coal Plant Pollution". I am not sick, have only been to see a doctor 1 time in the last 6 years. If you are sick, Must be because of Coal Power plants.

    I got a kick out of your BS about how much less you polluted with driving more than I do in your Subie. How much did you hall in that skate board??? Rarely do I go to town that I don't make it a multi purpose trip. how much cement have you hauled. How many pallets of bricks (used) have you hauled. How many times have you come home with 400 to 500 feet of water pipe??? Or 200 feet of leach line, plus fitting & glue. How do you haul enough T-111 siding to go all the way around a mobile home?? Enough 1/2" cement board to replace the plastic skirting around a mobile home. How do you take 1 person to the airport, another to buy groceries and do your own shopping????

    You had nothing to say when I told about making all me & my family's out building out of used material.

    You didn't really have anything to say about the "Eagle" kills. Just some stupidity about you killing a bird almost every month. Some one said I didn't live in the right area. Strange. coming back from town almost every power pole had it's own Hawk on it. Ravens (called Crows) feed on the highway all the time.

    Your big claim that while I'm bringing in Wood all you have to do if flip a switch. I'll bet you spend more time with all your Chinese junk, keeping it all working than I do with my wood.

    I don't have a mower of any kind. Don't was water on lawns and such. If needed once or twice a year I use a weed whacker, yep gas powered.

    New Found Greenies Like yourself are phony and can not really look at reality.

    Stay in your little dream world - Just TRY to keep your mouth shut when it comes to bad mouthing someone like myself.
    Quote Originally Posted by houstonscott View Post
    I like big oil. They heat my home, make my tractor and cars and trucks run, keep my home cool, my water hot. They provide all the chemicals that make all other industries viable. What I don't like is someone telling me how great solar and wind are, and demand they be supported, they provide nothing! When I go to the gas station tonight at 2am it's not wind and solar who are there with a station to fill my tank and make my life better, it's oil, big oil. I miss having a president who understands oil, the country, the world runs on oil, those who are against oil are against our way of life. I don't like having a President who is always the dumbest the guy in the room. Halliburton is a national asset. Those companies are America and Americans, when you bash big oil and halliburton you are bashing American's. These companies making money is good, if the VP has stock options that's fine with me. What scares me is when the President gives tax payers money to a solar company, who turns around and donates it to the same presidents campaign. That's criminal.

    HS
    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-D View Post
    My system is made in the USA.

    You missed this but I have a trailer that I use with my Subie which pulls 2700 lbs. My Subie is made in Indiana and Subaru is one of the lowest auto polluters in the world and one of the safest cars on the road.

    Your mobile home is not made from recycled materials.

    LED's don't cost $50.00 each, you can get them for much less as the technology improves further.

    We compared how much gas each of uses in a year, you use more, would you like me to got through the math again?

    You're not doesn't mean other people aren't:

    Chronic Illness Linked To Coal-mining Pollution, Study Shows

    "According to Hendryx, as coal production increases, so does the incidence of chronic illness. Coal-processing chemicals, equipment powered by diesel engines, explosives, toxic impurities in coals, and even dust from uncovered coal trucks can cause environmental pollution that could have a negative affect on public health."



    It's not made in China but I'll take that bet. How much would you like to wager?



    Enjoy the soliloquy if you must but it doesn't have anything to do with what we are discussing.



    I didn't bad mouth you, I disagreed with you. You're the one who's angry and giving orders, not me. Try to calm down, you'll blow a gasket.
    Rob
    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-D View Post
    Crash and HS,
    You can tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, or even tell me I couldn't find light at the end of a tunnel, you can criticize a popular personality like Al Gore BUT you can not call me insulting names like you both have done.

    If you do that all you have done is point a finger at your own in ability to defend your position with logic and reason. When anyone calls names it only establishes intellectual bankruptcy on their part.

    When you tell someone to "shut their mouth" you are only admitting your own lack of answers. Anger only solidifies a total failure or logic.

    Maybe we could return to civility? It's been a good discussion so far until you both started this.

    I see HS removed his insulting post.. good, let's return to a civil discussion.

    Thank you,
    Rob
    Good info and points Rob. Youre wasting your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by houstonscott View Post
    I like big oil. They heat my home, make my tractor and cars and trucks run, keep my home cool, my water hot. They provide all the chemicals that make all other industries viable. What I don't like is someone telling me how great solar and wind are, and demand they be supported, they provide nothing! When I go to the gas station tonight at 2am it's not wind and solar who are there with a station to fill my tank and make my life better, it's oil, big oil. I miss having a president who understands oil, the country, the world runs on oil, those who are against oil are against our way of life. I don't like having a President who is always the dumbest the guy in the room. Halliburton is a national asset. Those companies are America and Americans, when you bash big oil and halliburton you are bashing American's. These companies making money is good, if the VP has stock options that's fine with me. What scares me is when the President gives tax payers money to a solar company, who turns around and donates it to the same presidents campaign. That's criminal.

    HS
    "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then."

    Thomas Jefferson


    "What scares me is when the President gives tax payers money to a solar company, who turns around and donates it to the same presidents campaign."

    HS

    Gee, I wonder how Halliburton ever got that no bid contract in Iraq?

    Halliburton Company - Money,Politics,Campaign Contributions,Halliburton Company


    Halliburton Company - Political Campaign Contributions
    (1999 to Present)


    CHENEY, DICK
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 2/11/2000 PETE SESSIONS FOR CONGRESS 2002/
    Republican
    CHENEY, DICK
    DALLAS, TX 75201 2,500 1/22/1999 BROWNBUILDERS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE OF BROWN & ROOT, INC EMPLOYEES
    CHENEY, DICK
    DALLAS, TX 75201 2,500 1/26/1999 HAL ENERGY SERVICES INC POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE
    CHENEY, DICK
    DALLAS, TX 75201 2,500 2/25/2000 BROWNBUILDERS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE OF BROWN & ROOT, INC EMPLOYEES
    CHENEY, DICK
    DALLAS, TX 75201 2,500 2/25/2000 HAL ENERGY SERVICES INC POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 3/6/1999 FRIENDS FOR SLADE GORTON/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 4/21/1999 ASHCROFT 2000/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 5/17/1999 FRIENDS OF GEORGE ALLEN/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 5/25/1999 TRENT LOTT FOR MISSISSIPPI/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 10/29/1999 ABRAHAM SENATE 2000/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 12/14/1999 FRIENDS OF GIULIANI EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 services 1,000 12/21/1999 ALASKANS FOR DON YOUNG/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 -1,000 3/14/2000 KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON FOR SENATE COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 2/16/1999 WYOMING REPUBLICAN STATE COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 5/7/1999 CUBIN FOR CONGRESS INC/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 5/29/1999 FRIENDS OF CRAIG THOMAS/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 7/12/1999 WYOMING REPUBLICAN STATE COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 2/29/2000 JON KYL FOR U S SENATE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 3/14/2000 KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON FOR SENATE COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 500 2/26/1999 KAY GRANGER CAMPAIGN FUND/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 500 5/6/1999 BUSINESS INDUSTRY POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE/
    Unknown
    CHENEY, RICHARD B HON
    DALLAS, TX 75200 1,000 10/7/1999 HENRY J. HYDE FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B MR
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 2/21/2000 KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON FOR SENATE COMMITTEE/
    Republican

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-D View Post
    "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then."

    Thomas Jefferson


    "What scares me is when the President gives tax payers money to a solar company, who turns around and donates it to the same presidents campaign."

    HS

    Gee, I wonder how Halliburton ever got that no bid contract in Iraq?

    Halliburton Company - Money,Politics,Campaign Contributions,Halliburton Company


    Halliburton Company - Political Campaign Contributions
    (1999 to Present)


    CHENEY, DICK
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 2/11/2000 PETE SESSIONS FOR CONGRESS 2002/
    Republican
    CHENEY, DICK
    DALLAS, TX 75201 2,500 1/22/1999 BROWNBUILDERS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE OF BROWN & ROOT, INC EMPLOYEES
    CHENEY, DICK
    DALLAS, TX 75201 2,500 1/26/1999 HAL ENERGY SERVICES INC POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE
    CHENEY, DICK
    DALLAS, TX 75201 2,500 2/25/2000 BROWNBUILDERS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE OF BROWN & ROOT, INC EMPLOYEES
    CHENEY, DICK
    DALLAS, TX 75201 2,500 2/25/2000 HAL ENERGY SERVICES INC POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 3/6/1999 FRIENDS FOR SLADE GORTON/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 4/21/1999 ASHCROFT 2000/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 5/17/1999 FRIENDS OF GEORGE ALLEN/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 5/25/1999 TRENT LOTT FOR MISSISSIPPI/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 10/29/1999 ABRAHAM SENATE 2000/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 12/14/1999 FRIENDS OF GIULIANI EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD
    DALLAS, TX 75201 services 1,000 12/21/1999 ALASKANS FOR DON YOUNG/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 -1,000 3/14/2000 KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON FOR SENATE COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 2/16/1999 WYOMING REPUBLICAN STATE COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 5/7/1999 CUBIN FOR CONGRESS INC/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 5/29/1999 FRIENDS OF CRAIG THOMAS/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 7/12/1999 WYOMING REPUBLICAN STATE COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 2/29/2000 JON KYL FOR U S SENATE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 3/14/2000 KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON FOR SENATE COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 500 2/26/1999 KAY GRANGER CAMPAIGN FUND/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B
    DALLAS, TX 75201 500 5/6/1999 BUSINESS INDUSTRY POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE/
    Unknown
    CHENEY, RICHARD B HON
    DALLAS, TX 75200 1,000 10/7/1999 HENRY J. HYDE FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    CHENEY, RICHARD B MR
    DALLAS, TX 75201 1,000 2/21/2000 KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON FOR SENATE COMMITTEE/
    Republican
    Hey, those are the same names on my list. Not a socialist American hater on the list. LOL.

    HS

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    "If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier... as long as I'm the dictator. Hehehe. "
    ― George W. Bush


    "You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic."

    ― Winston S. Churchill, Blood, Sweat and Tears

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