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    Sorry, forgot to include the quote:

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    I'm living through global warming.
    It's "climate change" and it has been occurring as long as the planet has existed...

    If is was global and it was all warming...why is the ice in Antarctic growing and expanding

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    Because you are confusing the area of floating sea ice with total ice on the continent. Total ice is decreasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustier View Post
    The Earth is just doing what it does naturally to unnatural events and the consequences are all around us.

    Ignoring global warming with fantastic yarns and specious comparisons does little more than perpetuate the growing catastrophe that will come. The inability to comprehend the scale of global change, ideologically motivated or not, will have little or no effect on the future. The world will continue to be plundered by the selfish, predatory capitalist bassturds from the American Wall Street Crime Syndicate, Inc., oil will continue to foul the environment and air pollution from industrialized nations will continue to heat up the planet. The ruling elite is not mentally equipped to address this pressing issue. They will drive us all into the abyss.
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    Global warming deniers: give us an example of a change as evident as this one is - in the matter of 60 years- you can't- but that's your challenge-!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustier View Post
    The Earth is just doing what it does naturally to unnatural events and the consequences are all around us.

    Ignoring global warming with fantastic yarns and specious comparisons does little more than perpetuate the growing catastrophe that will come. The inability to comprehend the scale of global change, ideologically motivated or not, will have little or no effect on the future. The world will continue to be plundered by the selfish, predatory capitalist bassturds from the American Wall Street Crime Syndicate, Inc., oil will continue to foul the environment and air pollution from industrialized nations will continue to heat up the planet. The ruling elite is not mentally equipped to address this pressing issue. They will drive us all into the abyss.
    You hit the nail on the head. It explains so many of the post from the nay sayers,and their inability to accept the facts...mentally ill-equipped!
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    Quote Originally Posted by toppop52 View Post
    The earth may still be warming, not sure if we've peaked and we won't know until months/years after the peak for sure, but the fact that we warm is not unique to now, nor is the rate of warming.


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    Odd that all the people who work in climatology agree that past recoreds (over 100,000 years worth in ice cores) show that warming periods have never progressed this fast. In fact it is progressing faster than the experts even expected. Ice free date for N. Polar sea has been advanced form 'around 2040' to "in a few years".


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    Good thing humans weren't prospering during for the dinosaurs' period. You 'climate' guys would have been running around screaming bloody global cooling, and you would have been trying to interfere with the nature of things trying to save the dinosaurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnkey4099 View Post
    Odd that all the people who work in climatology agree that past recoreds (over 100,000 years worth in ice cores) show that warming periods have never progressed this fast. In fact it is progressing faster than the experts even expected. Ice free date for N. Polar sea has been advanced form 'around 2040' to "in a few years".


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    Ah, not exactly....
    Timescales of events described as 'abrupt' may vary dramatically. Changes recorded in the climate of Greenland at the end of the Younger Dryas, as measured by ice-cores, imply a sudden warming of +10C within a timescale of a few years.[6] Other abrupt changes are the +4 C on Greenland 11,270 years ago[7] or the abrupt +6 C warming 22 000 years ago on Antarctica.[
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    Then there's this "normal activity" caused by normal earth events that you screamers ignore....
    Abrupt climate shifts since 1976

    Had the 1997 El Nio lasted twice as long, the rain forests of the Amazon basin and Southeast Asia could have quickly added much additional carbon dioxide to the air from burning and rotting,[29] with heat waves and extreme weather quickly felt around the world (The "Burn Locally, Crash Globally" scenario.[30])

    Most abrupt climate shifts, however, are likely due to sudden circulation shifts, analogous to a flood cutting a new river channel. The best-known examples are the several dozen shutdowns of the North Atlantic Ocean's Meridional Overturning Circulation during the last ice age, affecting climate worldwide.[11] But there have been a series of less dramatic abrupt climate shifts since 1976, along with some near misses.

    The circulation shift in the western Pacific in the winter of 1976-1977[31] proved to have much wider impacts.
    Since 1950, El Niňos had been weak and short, but La Niňas were often big and long, This pattern reversed after 1977.
    Land temperatures had remained relatively trendless from 1950 to 1976, despite the CO2 rising from 310 to 332 ppm as fossil fuel emissions tripled. Then in 1977 there was a marked shift in observed global mean surface temperature to a rising fever of about 2C/century.[32]
    The expansion of the tropics from overheating is usually thought to be gradual, but the percentage of the land surface in the two most extreme classifications of drought suddenly doubled in 1982 and stayed there until 1997 when it jumped to triple (after six years, it stepped down to double).[33] While their inceptions correlate with the particularly large El Niňos of 1982 and 1997, the global drought steps far outlast the 13-month durations of those El Niňos.
    There were near-misses for "Burn Locally, Crash Globally" in Amazonia in 1998, 2005, and 2007, each with higher flammability than its predecessor.[29][34]
    There have also been two occasions when the Atlantic's Meridional Overturning Circulation lost a crucial safety factor. The Greenland Sea flushing at 75 N shut down in 1978, recovering over the next decade.[35] Then the second-largest flushing site, the Labrador Sea, shut down in 1997[36] for ten years.[37] While shutdowns overlapping in time have not been seen during the fifty years of observation, previous total shutdowns had severe worldwide climate consequences.[11]

    This makes abrupt climate shifts more like a heart attack than like a chronic disease whose course can be extrapolated.[30] Like heart attacks, some abrupt climate shifts are minor, some are catastrophic—and one cannot predict which or when. The recent track record, however, is that there have been several sudden shifts and several near-misses in each decade since 1976.
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    I guess this thread is heating up again. It was cold for several days/weeks but now is hot again. Almost as if it had some sort of cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbody View Post
    I guess this thread is heating up again. It was cold for several days/weeks but now is hot again. Almost as if it had some sort of cycle.
    Natural or man made?

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