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From the link...

WASHINGTON - A controversial e-mail message buried by the Bush administration because of its conclusions on global warming surfaced Tuesday, nearly two years after it was first sent to the White House and never opened. Why bury something you never opened?

The e-mail and the 28-page document attached to it, released Tuesday by the Environmental Protection Agency, show that back in December of 2007 the agency concluded that six gases linked to global warming pose dangers to public welfare, and wanted to take steps to regulate their release from automobiles and the burning of gasoline. (EPA was not part of the "administration?")


The document specifically cites global warming's effects on air quality, agriculture, forestry, water resources and coastal areas as endangering public welfare.(because global warming is not good?)

That finding was rejected by the Bush White House, which strongly opposed using the Clean Air Act to address climate change and stalled on producing a so-called "endangerment finding" that had been ordered by the Supreme Court in 2007. (Can they compel a co-equal branch? They can't impeach. There are limits to coequal branches)


As a result, the Dec. 5 e-mail sent by the agency to Susan Dudley, who headed the regulatory division at the Office of Management and Budget was never opened, according to Jason Burnett, the former EPA official that wrote it. (Oh..so it is an OMB person who never opened it..that doesn't sound nearly as bad.)

The Bush administration, and then EPA administrator Stephen Johnson, also refused to release the document, which is labeled "deliberative, do not distribute" to Democratic lawmakers. The White House instead allowed three senators to review it in July 2008, when excerpts were released. (But why? They were always so helpful to President Bush, and the administration. The Democratic admin must have marked their findings on the "secret" Cheney energy meetings similarly)

The ***** administration in April made a similar determination, but also concluded that greenhouse gases endanger public health. (OK, so only the healthcare bill needed passing before knowing.)The EPA is currently drafting the first greenhouse gas standards for automobiles, (perfect efficiency is marked by CO2 and H20. Congress did not empower them to act in this manner.) and recently signaled it would attempt to reduce climate-altering pollution from refineries, factories and other large industrial sources.(Hot air from Washington..limit travel of politicians?)

In response, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Republican lawmakers have criticized the EPA's reasoning and called for a more thorough vetting of the science.(No...its "settled.") An internal review by a dozen federal agencies released in May also raised questions about the EPA's conclusion, saying the agency could have been more balanced and raising questions about the difficulty in linking global warming to health effects.(Silence!)

The agency released the e-mail and documents after receiving requests under the Freedom of Information Act.
Adora Andy, a spokeswoman for EPA administrator Lisa Jackson, said Tuesday that the draft shows the science in 2007 was as clear as it is today.(So's a brick.)

"The conclusions reached then by the EPA scientists should have been made public and should have been considered," she said.(Agreed...we paid for it. We always do. But the EPA gets sued into doing what the law does not empower them to do, and then the EPA pays legal fees of the folks sueing. Stop that. Stop doing that for the ACLU too.)

 
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   / Global Warming? #476  
Seen somewhere:

"When told about Global Warming, the Eskimos went looking for some tires to burn."
 
   / Global Warming? #477  
March 21,1012 - Central Maine- 82 F in the shade at 4:45. Yesterday it was 76. Th day before- warm as well.
Global warming has been here for decades- but it becomes more obvious with each passing year. It used to be that no one would admit to it if they were a conservative. Now people don't see a link to man, but admit it is warmer. The climate has changed - all over the world- driven by the fact of global warming.
It is man caused.
It will be expensive to fix. Why fix it- so people don't have to die in tornadoes, be flooded out, have their ocean island country be washed away, have to start irrigating in Maine because the summer heat and drought are killing the crops that once grew well when the temps stayed in the 70's through the summer.
2000 we were warned. The conservos mobilized to kill it. The dems are afraid of it.
What joy there is living amongst fools!:laughing::laughing:
 
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It will be expensive to fix. Why fix it- so people don't have to die in tornadoes, be flooded out, have their ocean island country be washed away, have to start irrigating in Maine because the summer heat and drought are killing the crops that once grew well when the temps stayed in the 70's through the summer.
2000 we were warned.
There is no fix, only adaptation and hopefully slowing the pace.
 
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OK, let us go through this again, class. The earth has been around for some 5 billion years. Proper records have been kept on weather for some 200 years. That means we have records for less then a very small fraction of 1%. Global cooling and warming has been going on the planet since it was a collection of dust particles, and will continue when humanoids are nothing more then fossil remains deep in the rock layers a few million years old. Al Gore, Mr. Obamalini and their ilk were given Nobel Prizes not for their achievements, but for their political bent by a group of ultra liberal Nobel wiennies. Are there any more questions? Good. Now this weekends homework is read chapters 4 and 5 from "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alisky and learn how to insult anybody who does not agree with your crackpot theories. Johnny- stop throwing spit balls at the blackboard!
 
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Cat_Driver said:
OK, let us go through this again, class. The earth has been around for some 5 billion years. Proper records have been kept on weather for some 200 years. That means we have records for less then a very small fraction of 1%. Global cooling and warming has been going on the planet since it was a collection of dust particles, and will continue when humanoids are nothing more then fossil remains deep in the rock layers a few million years old. Al Gore, Mr. Obamalini and their ilk were given Nobel Prizes not for their achievements, but for their political bent by a group of ultra liberal Nobel wiennies. Are there any more questions? Good. Now this weekends homework is read chapters 4 and 5 from "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alisky and learn how to insult anybody who does not agree with your crackpot theories. Johnny- stop throwing spit balls at the blackboard!

But, but Teacher, the sky is falling, the sky is falling...


Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek !!
 
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