N80
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Chuck52 said:Harry, Harry, Harry. Of course it can be denied. Where you been, boy? Denial is alive and well and prospering. The oil will last forever. Even if we've managed to polute major parts of the water of the Earth, our impact on the atmosphere is obviously trivial. Those contrails up there that seem to turn into clouds are nothing at all. Acid rain is fiction. The passenger pigeon needs company wherever it is we sent him. All those eggheads with degrees are just scrambling their yolks because they are too stupid to do real work. Relax. Don't worry. Social Security will take care of you.
Kind of ironic, all that. By your tone, you're obviously convinced that your eggheads are somehow beyond reproach, beyond skepticism. I'd have also guessed by your tone that you were one of the 'buck everything', anti-establishment sorts. Which makes it more ironic. Who do you think the 'establishment' is? Some political party? Please. But that's fine. If those of us who don't believe in human caused global warming are in denial, what state does that put you in? It puts you in a state of believing everything you hear and read, especially if it suits some preconcieved notion or idealogy. And even worse, most of it isn't even bad science, its stuff people pick up on CBS and in Time magazine.
And it almost sounds like a redneck mantra but really, I mean really, if we are making such a mess of things, why do the greenies drive cars, use plastic and breath? I have a lot more respect for the person who can say 'yep, we're going to heck in a hand basket and I'm fine with it' than someone whining about how everyone else is behaving but doesn't have the real guts, commitment or faith to change their own, equally destructive behavior and even WORSE, that very same person who uses recycled paper once in a while and drives a 4 door sedan but NOT an SUV and ASSUMES that they are are somehow 'doing their part.'
But back to my challenge. Let's once again assume Al Gore is 100% right (I can't believe I put those last 5 words in the same sentance) as a scientist (we'll keep politics out of this). No one can tell me how things will improve. No one can tell me the good things about global warming. If you want to get to the heart, the real meat of the issue, just ask that question and watch the chicken littles fade into the woodwork. Why? Because they have a point to make, not a fact to prove. Delineating the positives of global warming does not hurt the fact, but it ruins the point.
And lets go back to your point about the oil lasting forever. We know that it won't. but you know what? From about 1974 on, the American public has been bombarded with the propaganda that its going to run out any minute now. I was in grade school during that time and the public school system pumped us full of so much bull hockey and paranoia about oil resources that it was criminal. Total, unabashed, bald faced lies. And they came from the best eggheads in the business. The truth is that from right now there is enough accessible oil to last another 40 years, and here's the kicker, at the current rate of increasing demand! Well, pit that figure against those crying wolf and see who looks like they got their heads in the sand...or whereever.