By that reasoning you should remove Prof Mann's work and East Angelica University's work and all the work done where data was not shared publicly when lawfully requested.
The question about the pilot is answered with a simple yes or no. I can't find it in your reply. So why trust them with your life on Climate change?
So who do you want to trust Exxon? Logic dictates that they would want to muddy the CC water, the last thing they want is for someone to hold oil accountable for CC.
Your analogy is apples to oranges. What are looking for someone to say they would go up with a questionable pilot? Well maybe you would if your life depended on it. If you had to get a heart for your loved one who was dying and the plane was the only way to get the heart in time, Ill bet you'd go, I would.
I'm not off grid for CC, I think it is real but my reasoning is that the planet is in trouble from pollution, that's what's causing the health problems. Things like coal slurries in WV destroying the environment, at what point do we say resources will run out and we have to find clean ways to live for future generations. Or don't you think resources on this planet will ever run out? The last time we had a major oil find was the North Sea in 69. In 2005 OPEC decided to base a countries oil sales on the countries reserves, all of a sudden everyone's reserves doubled and tripled!
Also I wonder if you guys understand Alternate energy. First, there are some misconceptions about setting up systems. Basically solar guys go in and look at your bill and say you need an 'X' amount of panels or wind turbines. I had an installer come here and do that to me. I said, "woe, hold on, that's not how it should be done, the first thing you should do is cut people's energy usage. You can't put on solar panels and expect to live with incandescent lights left on all night." So instead of people realizing that they can't keep abusing energy they say," I can't get enough panels to run my house." Meam while they're wasting energy all over the place. We don't use 1/4 of the world's energy for nothing!
The other thing is that I'm reducing pollution and the rates of all the people in the coop, why are you angry when people get incentives. We go into wars to defend corporate oil interests in the middle east and you pay for that, are you getting a fuel benefit?
Alternate energy is people power, it takes money out of the corporate machine that feeds lobbies that control our country and lives. When I put up solar panels there's a direct benefit to the local people. When you buy electricity from PG&E that's a few people making money, they still control the energy, not you.
How do I beat the system? I run on intertie, my off grid doesn't work the batteries, they're several years old and going strong. batteries last a long time if you keep the discharge rate low, 10 or 20%. My intertie covers my energy usage and then some, so I'm actually powering another house in the summer. On sunny days I shut off the grid and the solar panels run the house with very little discharge, now I'm selling even more to the coop and everyone benefits.
Do I waste energy? Nope, EPEAT gold computers, all CFL's, etc. But people want to build big homes, drive gas guzzlers and then say,"Gee, solar won't work for me". So they drive around in a $45k SUV that gives them no return ever on theri money and say, "The pay back on solar is too long!" If we got any stupider we'd forget how to stand erect.
Some people around here accuse me of telling everyone how they should live. I'm not telling people how to live, but don't cry when you're paying a high price for heating oil next winter when I'm heating my house with AE for free.At that point I don't care how high oil prices go, can you say that?
If you can't see what's coming down the road you're blind, things aren't going to get better, there aren't any silver bullets, it's about common sense, a rare commodity in this country!
Rob
. Few folks can stay out of tier 3 without solar assistance. I think tier 3 is now pushing 38 cents per kwh. This does not include transmission and distribution charges. WE burn about 1000 kwh a month. We have a Hot Springs spa, a swimming pool and 2 refrigerators. NG for heat and water heater as well as the stove. If we killed one frig and dropped the spa, I suspect we could do quite a bit better. You are indeed correct about folks who live off the beaten path with no power close by. The cost to get the wire there is prohibitive for most. Small hydro and/or solar with battery storage is the preferred method.
