Richard
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Here's a pic although when I took it I wasn't planning on asking the question so the pic isn't well framed for my question.
Room is about 14 1/2' wide, 19' long to the near wall with wires and on the left side, about 21' to the wall near the air handler. Ceiling height to the joists is right at 9'
for simplicity, we'll say that the wife wants half the room to have a full height ceiling (above the cameras head) and the other half (the part in view), to be low enough to cover the ducting (forgetting about the extension along the wall). We are only talking left/right here.
So, the next stipulation she's given me , she does not want ANY further intrusion into the room than is 100% necessary. If I can get away with a hanging joist in between the two ducts (flush with them) for screwing drywall to, then she wants me to do that and NOT put any 2x4's UNDER the square duct.
The right side wall pic is also a bad one but the wall is part block and part studs. By the time we look at a line from the end of the ducts we are working next to the block wall.
Ok... so with that as a background, I'll need some form of "beam" from the block wall to the wall next to the ducts however, she does not want this to extend BELOW the ducts. I know that creates a bit of a problem as I was going to possibly take a 2x4x16, cut it down to about 14 1/2 and simply use it as a single connection between the two places. Now that I'm not allowed to have a 2x4 beneith the ductwork I'm a bit confused on how to frame it in.
To add insult to my injury... I'm not even sure that 2x4 would be the best thing to do. My tendency's are to use the size bigger if I can so I'd be happy using a 2x6 or heck...even a 2x10. I KNOW it's not going to be load bearing in the traditional sense but there WILL be drywall hung from it and second, I'll have some wall shaking speakers in here and I don't want things to vibrate more than necessary.
So, how might the local braintrust string a header from wall to wall OR would you string it in sections?
Perhaps take a 2x4 from the right block wall up TO the ductwork as one section, then try to hang some anchor points in between the two ducts and along the left wall and use those as the other section (with the drywall covering them all as single sheet)
I love typing these questions out... for me, it's clear as a bell yet having read these things before, I'm realizing it might be clear as mud after all this typing!!
Oh...and on pic 2 with the doors, what I'd LOVE to do is use that header as my support for the 2x4's (or 6's??) however as I recall, doing so will encroach into her room a bit so if I use the header, I'll need to add some kind of riser under it to gain that three quarters of an inch in height back
It would be a lot easier if she just 'let' me go ahead and frame something across the room that travels UNDER the duct so I'd have a continuous surface.
Room is about 14 1/2' wide, 19' long to the near wall with wires and on the left side, about 21' to the wall near the air handler. Ceiling height to the joists is right at 9'
for simplicity, we'll say that the wife wants half the room to have a full height ceiling (above the cameras head) and the other half (the part in view), to be low enough to cover the ducting (forgetting about the extension along the wall). We are only talking left/right here.
So, the next stipulation she's given me , she does not want ANY further intrusion into the room than is 100% necessary. If I can get away with a hanging joist in between the two ducts (flush with them) for screwing drywall to, then she wants me to do that and NOT put any 2x4's UNDER the square duct.
The right side wall pic is also a bad one but the wall is part block and part studs. By the time we look at a line from the end of the ducts we are working next to the block wall.
Ok... so with that as a background, I'll need some form of "beam" from the block wall to the wall next to the ducts however, she does not want this to extend BELOW the ducts. I know that creates a bit of a problem as I was going to possibly take a 2x4x16, cut it down to about 14 1/2 and simply use it as a single connection between the two places. Now that I'm not allowed to have a 2x4 beneith the ductwork I'm a bit confused on how to frame it in.
To add insult to my injury... I'm not even sure that 2x4 would be the best thing to do. My tendency's are to use the size bigger if I can so I'd be happy using a 2x6 or heck...even a 2x10. I KNOW it's not going to be load bearing in the traditional sense but there WILL be drywall hung from it and second, I'll have some wall shaking speakers in here and I don't want things to vibrate more than necessary.
So, how might the local braintrust string a header from wall to wall OR would you string it in sections?
Perhaps take a 2x4 from the right block wall up TO the ductwork as one section, then try to hang some anchor points in between the two ducts and along the left wall and use those as the other section (with the drywall covering them all as single sheet)
I love typing these questions out... for me, it's clear as a bell yet having read these things before, I'm realizing it might be clear as mud after all this typing!!
Oh...and on pic 2 with the doors, what I'd LOVE to do is use that header as my support for the 2x4's (or 6's??) however as I recall, doing so will encroach into her room a bit so if I use the header, I'll need to add some kind of riser under it to gain that three quarters of an inch in height back
It would be a lot easier if she just 'let' me go ahead and frame something across the room that travels UNDER the duct so I'd have a continuous surface.