EasyWater system - real deal or snake oil?

[daisy dog]

Easy water is a scam. Remember anyone can pose as a satisfied customer on this forum.
I am a senior RF and Microwave engineer. I looked at the easy water web site and see that it is an obvious fraud. They show the output wire coil wrapped around a metal water pipe. There is NO WAY a coil wrapped around the outside of a conductive metal pipe can induce an electro magnetic field inside the pipe.
The metal pipe serves as a Faraday cage an shorts out the field. So the device does nothing.

There is a sucker born every day.
I am disappointed to see Sean Hannity pitching this fraud.

 

[/pine]

I don't know about all the claims this company makes but I do know that using magnets around metal water lines will indeed cut way down on mineral deposits...

You don't need to buy expensive magnets...search the Internet and you can find very cheap magnet wraps...there is no denying that fact they DO WORK to some degree...

 

[Western]

Easy water is a scam. Remember anyone can pose as a satisfied customer on this forum.
I am a senior RF and Microwave engineer. I looked at the easy water web site and see that it is an obvious fraud. They show the output wire coil wrapped around a metal water pipe. There is NO WAY a coil wrapped around the outside of a conductive metal pipe can induce an electro magnetic field inside the pipe.
The metal pipe serves as a Faraday cage an shorts out the field. So the device does nothing.

There is a sucker born every day.
I am disappointed to see Sean Hannity pitching this fraud.

What if your supply line is pvc?

 

[CrownHawg]

My question is this. WHERE do the minerals GO? I know with my system, as it backflushes, it leaves LOTS of iron and sulphur deposits. With the Easy Water system, the minerals can't just DISAPPEAR!!!

 

[/pine]

I can only attest to what I have personally experienced and magnets have significantly reduced the scaling/deposits in toilets etc...

Here is a collection of information that may or may not be helpful:
Magnetic water treatment pseudoscience

 

[Dargo]

My question is this. WHERE do the minerals GO? I know with my system, as it backflushes, it leaves LOTS of iron and sulphur deposits. With the Easy Water system, the minerals can't just DISAPPEAR!!!

According to the our city engineer, full unrestricted flow through my main inlet pipe is about 300 gallons per minute. With no ability to add more than perhaps a 6" wrap around the pipe, he estimated that the affect the "EasyWater", or any other magnet, system on my incoming water would be basically zero regardless of any of their claims. Even going through the insanely long mathematical calculation in his reference book and assuming that I only ran 20 gallons per minute max through the system at any one time, he estimated that even a very powerful electromagnet would have to encompass nearly 30' of my incoming water pipe to even remotely have a chance to change the physical properties of the water. In other words, he told me that using all his reference books and degree in hydrology, the EasyWater system likely does absolutely nothing. Perhaps that is why I no longer see their bogus TV ads anymore and haven't in almost a year. He also told me that no licensed plumbing company he knows of doing work in our county has ever installed any EasyWater or magnet based system for their customers. Taking all of that into consideration, I'd venture to guess that having your family stand at the point your water line enters your house and chanting "give us only soft water" over and over would give you the same result as EasyWater.

 

[/pine]

...full unrestricted flow through my main inlet pipe is about 300 gallons per minute...

just curious...
To get 300GPM your "main inlet pipe" must be about 3.5 inches?

 

[Jay4200]

I have to admit that when I first saw the commercials for EasyWater water conditioning systems I laughed and thought it was a complete scam. Now I don't know. Here is their homepage Order Your EasyWater System Online Today

I have three tankless water heaters and am in an area known for particularly hard water.

I've never been able to understand it when people complain that they have to keep adding salt and don't install softeners. Of course you have to keep adding salt - you keep pulling out calcium and something has to take it's place...

Regardless of whether the Easywater system works or not (which I doubt), it is considerably more expensive than both residential softeners (like Kenmore), and commercial softeners (which use identical media and primary tanks as the residential units, but use much better meters/timers, and don't bother with the attractive single plastic case). Besides, if your water is very hard, you've already ruined your tankless water heater cores, and replacing them is going to add up to at least another softener or two.

There's a bunch of companies that sell commercial treatment systems on the 'net like this one.
Water Softener and Water Conditioner Treatment Systems

Oh, just blundered across this on the above site:
Magnet Water Softener

JayC

 

[mikek555]

Ok been looking around on the internet to try and see if this is a scam or not and still not sure...

I looked the people up on the better business bureau and they haven't really had any complaints it seems:

If the link gets broke just look it up under: Freije Treatment Systems, Inc.

Freije Treatment Systems, Inc. Review - WATER SOFT AND CONDITIONING EQUIPMENT SERVICE AND SUPPLIES in Greenfield, IN - BBB Reliability Report - BBB serving Central Indiana

If someone was going to get this installed i'd at least recommend having a local trusted plumber who supports these devices come and install it, make sure the company will back up the claim.

 

[MikePA]

I have had a ScaleBan installed for 20 years. Same technology. It doesn't work, at all. The only thing it removes is money from your wallet to buy it. So, why'd I keep it installed for 20 years? It wasn't hurting anything and I thought maybe, just maybe, it was doing something. The old, 'without it things would be worse', foolish hope. Ha! Granted, it took a long time, but in November I installed a new toilet because the old one was clogged beyond belief with mineral deposits both on the input and output sides. Ditto for the furnace humidifier I replaced. I had a real water softener system installed a little over a month ago. No more mineral deposits. We use less soap. All the usual benefits of soft water. FWIW, we use potassium chloride pellets not sodium chloride. Yes, it's more expensive, but at a bag/month it's worth it not to have water with a faint salty taste and not to shorten the life of my sump pump by dumping salt water in the sump pit.

P.S.
I don't wear a copper bracelet or wrap magnets around any body parts to cure arthritis.
I don't sharpen my razor blades by putting them in a pyramid.
I don't wear a tinfoil hat to keep aliens from reading my mind.
I step on sidewalk cracks and my mother's back never broke.