DennisArrow
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Thought a brief update of:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/142475-easement-gate-question-help.html
would be in order:
In my last post I advised of the good news and blessings that the section above me of 10 acres was available for me to purchase. Turns out after the survey that it was 11.63 and cost a bit more; but that is just fine.
Yes, the county
(http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/144071-encroachment-advice-needed.html)
had encroached; but after meeting peacefully with him on the sight we made a lot of agreeements that would make me happy and keep the mining regulatory people off of him. In Georgia, the EPD, really does care about the private folks to make sure that mines do what they are supposed to do in a careful manner.
Ended up with free chert, landscaping of my property and their buffer strip, and good relations.
The new property includes a paved road from the state highway, up over the mountain, and back down the other side to my house. A little more than a half mile for the total road. The last portion as it heads down the hill to my house is/was pretty rough gravel/dirt. Brought in a motor grader and vibrator roller and a bunch of what is called crusher run. (granite that has been run through a crusher and comes out as powder and small fines) NOW I HAVE A ROAD that is ALL MINE and not shared. Well, most of it.
Just so you understand: The original 400 or so acres was owned by an ol boy who leased part of his land to the county to develop a "chert" mine/pit. (limestone/flint quary that makes excellent fill or road surface) This quarry fronts on a state highway; but to get to the back side up at the top of the mountain the county built an access dirt road. This all happened back in the 40's and 50's. In the 80's the landowner began to subdivide for residence acreages the 200 acres along the access road giving an easement to those new property owners. There are 11 of us with anything from less than an acre, 2 acres, 5, 10, 50, 70.........We all supposedly shared in the maintenance of this easement road. Being on the end of the road, guess who ended up doing all of the maintenance or vast majority? Most of the folks actually do or did nothing about the repairs except complain about the condition.
Over time, the folks that lived on the easement began to complain about the gravel trucks with dust, hazards, etc and complained to the EPA and mining regulatory folks. So, the property owner put in a seperate road from the state highway up to the back side of the mine. He ended up paving it because it is steep and winding and trucks were tearing themselves up getting to the mine. This new road meets the old easement road at the top of the mountain.
THIS ROAD is ALL MINE and PAVED.
Now, ..............this has turned out to be a long description but I do want you to understand.
OK..........The new land which includes the paved road closed two weeks ago, and yes, needs a lot of maintenance.(in subsequent threads I have a lot of questions about road cracks and pothole repair) It has been fairly ignored for 4 or 5 years as the county runs it's operation from the state highway. Anyway, down where it meets the highway, a new electric gate with an Apollo opener will finish being installed tomorrow.
Again, I am the last residence on the old gravel easement road. This goes on up the hill past me for a quarter mile or so to the back side of the mine and meets the paved road. It has been pretty much ignored for quite a few years. On the other side of the road is: the back of 3 property owners who have access to their homes/land on another section of the easement road and the CITY has a water tank/tower that they visit perhaps once a week.
The easement road has been considered by many as a public road. Many....MANY times I am awakened by my road alarm at 2 in the morning by folks out "looking" around. In the last few years me posting signs and greeting them with a shotgun and advising them that it isnt public has pretty much put a stop to the casual users that just happen to be checking out my barn or the water tower.
With the easement connecting to the paved road I am going to use that as MY entry. The electric gate on one end at the state highway, up the mountain, beautiful vista at the top, down the vastly improved gravel easement and there is my house.
Below me, I have put up a cable across the road. Yes, I have contacted the owners that have been "blocked". There is NO problem with any of them because their driveways are other places and only come up to the back side of their land on an infrequent basis. I put a combination lock on the cable and the city to get to their tank will "daisy chain" their own lock. NOBODY that has the rights to the easement has a problem.
Who does have a problem is a couple of good ol boys below me that have been using the road to ride their motorcycles or exercise their junker trucks up the easement road. These 2 guys have no property on this section of the easement and are really upset by it being closed to them. I refuse, after spending several thousand dollars to improve the dirt road so that it is what I call a gravel road interstate, to allow these ol boys the right to tear up the road. These are the same guys that in 10 years that I have lived here, that have never lifted a hand or bought a can of diesel to help maintain that same road.
So..........these 2 guys.....what to do.........???????..........I talked about it with them and ended up shaking hands with them understanding I hope, that the road was blocked to them because I had spent a bunch of money on it to improve it and I dont want it torn up, and to keep out the casual "visitor". I still worry about midnight vadalization. One of them early on threatened to take a chain saw to my posts. This guy has two sons that are felons with one being a meth dealer and I can see problems down the road.....no pun..........
God has blessed me so I guess I just turn the situation over to HIM.................
Thoughts about what to do?
Who to contact and give them the combination?.............
911.......did that
Phone company........did that
Electric company.........doing that tomorrow
Thanks for your thoughts guys...........God bless.........Dennis
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/142475-easement-gate-question-help.html
would be in order:
In my last post I advised of the good news and blessings that the section above me of 10 acres was available for me to purchase. Turns out after the survey that it was 11.63 and cost a bit more; but that is just fine.
Yes, the county
(http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/144071-encroachment-advice-needed.html)
had encroached; but after meeting peacefully with him on the sight we made a lot of agreeements that would make me happy and keep the mining regulatory people off of him. In Georgia, the EPD, really does care about the private folks to make sure that mines do what they are supposed to do in a careful manner.
Ended up with free chert, landscaping of my property and their buffer strip, and good relations.
The new property includes a paved road from the state highway, up over the mountain, and back down the other side to my house. A little more than a half mile for the total road. The last portion as it heads down the hill to my house is/was pretty rough gravel/dirt. Brought in a motor grader and vibrator roller and a bunch of what is called crusher run. (granite that has been run through a crusher and comes out as powder and small fines) NOW I HAVE A ROAD that is ALL MINE and not shared. Well, most of it.
Just so you understand: The original 400 or so acres was owned by an ol boy who leased part of his land to the county to develop a "chert" mine/pit. (limestone/flint quary that makes excellent fill or road surface) This quarry fronts on a state highway; but to get to the back side up at the top of the mountain the county built an access dirt road. This all happened back in the 40's and 50's. In the 80's the landowner began to subdivide for residence acreages the 200 acres along the access road giving an easement to those new property owners. There are 11 of us with anything from less than an acre, 2 acres, 5, 10, 50, 70.........We all supposedly shared in the maintenance of this easement road. Being on the end of the road, guess who ended up doing all of the maintenance or vast majority? Most of the folks actually do or did nothing about the repairs except complain about the condition.
Over time, the folks that lived on the easement began to complain about the gravel trucks with dust, hazards, etc and complained to the EPA and mining regulatory folks. So, the property owner put in a seperate road from the state highway up to the back side of the mine. He ended up paving it because it is steep and winding and trucks were tearing themselves up getting to the mine. This new road meets the old easement road at the top of the mountain.
THIS ROAD is ALL MINE and PAVED.
Now, ..............this has turned out to be a long description but I do want you to understand.
OK..........The new land which includes the paved road closed two weeks ago, and yes, needs a lot of maintenance.(in subsequent threads I have a lot of questions about road cracks and pothole repair) It has been fairly ignored for 4 or 5 years as the county runs it's operation from the state highway. Anyway, down where it meets the highway, a new electric gate with an Apollo opener will finish being installed tomorrow.
Again, I am the last residence on the old gravel easement road. This goes on up the hill past me for a quarter mile or so to the back side of the mine and meets the paved road. It has been pretty much ignored for quite a few years. On the other side of the road is: the back of 3 property owners who have access to their homes/land on another section of the easement road and the CITY has a water tank/tower that they visit perhaps once a week.
The easement road has been considered by many as a public road. Many....MANY times I am awakened by my road alarm at 2 in the morning by folks out "looking" around. In the last few years me posting signs and greeting them with a shotgun and advising them that it isnt public has pretty much put a stop to the casual users that just happen to be checking out my barn or the water tower.
With the easement connecting to the paved road I am going to use that as MY entry. The electric gate on one end at the state highway, up the mountain, beautiful vista at the top, down the vastly improved gravel easement and there is my house.
Below me, I have put up a cable across the road. Yes, I have contacted the owners that have been "blocked". There is NO problem with any of them because their driveways are other places and only come up to the back side of their land on an infrequent basis. I put a combination lock on the cable and the city to get to their tank will "daisy chain" their own lock. NOBODY that has the rights to the easement has a problem.
Who does have a problem is a couple of good ol boys below me that have been using the road to ride their motorcycles or exercise their junker trucks up the easement road. These 2 guys have no property on this section of the easement and are really upset by it being closed to them. I refuse, after spending several thousand dollars to improve the dirt road so that it is what I call a gravel road interstate, to allow these ol boys the right to tear up the road. These are the same guys that in 10 years that I have lived here, that have never lifted a hand or bought a can of diesel to help maintain that same road.
So..........these 2 guys.....what to do.........???????..........I talked about it with them and ended up shaking hands with them understanding I hope, that the road was blocked to them because I had spent a bunch of money on it to improve it and I dont want it torn up, and to keep out the casual "visitor". I still worry about midnight vadalization. One of them early on threatened to take a chain saw to my posts. This guy has two sons that are felons with one being a meth dealer and I can see problems down the road.....no pun..........
God has blessed me so I guess I just turn the situation over to HIM.................
Thoughts about what to do?
Who to contact and give them the combination?.............
911.......did that
Phone company........did that
Electric company.........doing that tomorrow
Thanks for your thoughts guys...........God bless.........Dennis