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04-13-2012, 10:21 AM #11Elite Member
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Re: Heating with Pellet Stove???Wth?
Lots of threads about pellet stoves on here. I have been using a pellet insert for about 7-8 years. Pellet prices did go way up 2004-2006 but now are mostly down to about 2004 levels. Quality can vary, I find if it looks like good wood it probably is.. if it looks like it have needles and bark in it they are crap (all softwood out here). I find heating with pellets to be %45 the cost of propane for my central furnace.
Historically I have found that the pellet stove is good until the weather gets in the low 20's/teens and then I also need to run the propane. I have a 2400sqft house and the stove sits in the living room with is open to both floors. We run ceiling fans in almost every room. I run a standup fan all winter to push air through the north part of the house which would not normally circulate based on the floor plan. During the colder parts of winter I set the pellet stove to run all the time (higher temp) and set the propane to the temp I actually want the house to be. This way the pellets do most of the work and the more expensive propane is only used when needed.
This year I finally got around to installing an outside air kit and it seemed to make quite a difference in how the remote parts the house felt, along walls etc always seemed cold. This year we had a pretty mild winter for about half of it. Will hold judgement on how effective the outside air kit is until the next 'good' winter.
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04-13-2012, 10:43 AM #12
Re: Heating with Pellet Stove???Wth?
I always think its a great idea to have at least three ways to heat your home using three different fuels. For example, I primarily heat my home with number 2 oil and when it gets really cold or oil is above 4 bucks a gallon, I shift to my pellet stove (Had it for 5 years). Then I can use LP in a nonvented lp stove.
Supply and demand will drive up the cost of all fuel sources. Wood stoves are great because they dont require electricity but supply and demand and shortage of seasoned wood can become a headache. Also I hate the handling of the wood, cutting, splitting, stacking, stacking again, bugs, moisure, bugs, stacking
Getting the fire started, and the fact that usually to heat a house you will always have a room that is too hot and some that are too cold. Plus-the friggin smoke sucks.
For me Pellets stoves are clean, the bags keep the fuel from getting moist or wet-and are recycleable. The 40 lb bags are easy to handle and dump in the bin and stack. The blower forces the hot air to circulate so its never too hot or hot by the stove itself. Its the most efficient wood burning device out there at the moment. I can pick up a bag of pellets from just about any store here in Maine.
I am also tired of the wood smoke blowing into my yard from my neighbors wood stoves.
The three disdvantages to pellet stoves are it requires electricity, moving parts, and will not work in power outages. (they do have 12 hour batteries for them however-which I will be getting at some point).
For me pellet stoves over wood stoves-any day
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04-13-2012, 10:44 AM #13Silver Member
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Re: Heating with Pellet Stove???Wth?
How noisy are they? Don't know very many people who have them, but those that I have seen in action, seemed a bit loud to want in living space...maybe a basement.
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04-13-2012, 11:29 AM #14Elite Member
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Re: Heating with Pellet Stove???Wth?
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04-13-2012, 05:31 PM #15
Re: Heating with Pellet Stove???Wth?
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04-13-2012, 05:51 PM #16Veteran Member
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Re: Heating with Pellet Stove???Wth?
Our is adjustable. On low it's not bad at all....but doesn't move much air. On high it's too much for me and even at a middle setting it is louder than I like.
I am not convinced that pellet stoves are more efficient than a good EPA wood stove. Yeah, they can talk about burning efficiency, but a lot of heat goes out the flue too, they are not telling the overall efficiency of the stove.Its the most efficient wood burning device out there at the moment. I can pick up a bag of pellets from just about any store here in Maine.
I am also tired of the wood smoke blowing into my yard from my neighbors wood stoves.
As for smoke, our pellet stove produces as much, or more, than our wood stove. Yes, pre-EPA stoves were worse and of course there are the people who burn poorly seasoned wood or have a smouldering fire. But very, very rarely can I see any smoke coming from our wood stove chimney.
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04-14-2012, 04:01 PM #17Elite Member
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Re: Heating with Pellet Stove???Wth?
Pellet stove should not produce any smoke except on start-up.
I think the efficiency of my pellet stove is quoted at 85% or so. However, I find that over time the heat exchanger tubes get coated with ash and you can feel the difference when you pull the cleaning rods. I use a glove and pull my cleaning rods daily to get the best efficiency. You can hold your hands right in the exhaust of a pellet stove so not a whole lot of heat is going out the exhaust.
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04-15-2012, 12:27 AM #18Elite Member
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Re: Heating with Pellet Stove???Wth?
a properly burning pellet stove is very efficient. The amount of ash developed is a good example of this. they have a blower that forces air to the small fire. This produces a very hot clean burning fire. The heat output is regulated by how fast a screw feed, feeds the pellets to the fire.
Does the house not have a heat pump? 35miles north of Memphis is like Millington/Munford. You live on a heat pump for like all but 2 weeks of winter for which you have a pellet stove for reliable backup heat.Steve - TC33D 4x4 FEL, dual rear remotes with toys
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04-15-2012, 01:00 AM #19Elite Member
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Re: Heating with Pellet Stove???Wth?
Our house came with geothermal and also a pellet stove. We use the pellet stove for backup heat if we lose electric. Our pellet stove will run off a portable generator but not the geothermal. I can think of nothing better for backup heat. The wood pellets store well for long periods of time. Ours doesn't produce much dust in our house. Lugging bags of wood pellets doesn't make a mess in the house. From what I have read it wouldn't be my choice for primary heat. But for back up heat it is at the top of my list. We really like ours.
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04-16-2012, 02:43 PM #20
Re: Heating with Pellet Stove???Wth?
With pellets typically at 200$ per ton and propane typically at 2.5 per gallon, it costs about 50% as much to heat with pellets. Electric resistance heatat 10 cents per KWH and propane heat are about the same and fuel oil at 4$ per gallon is way way too high.
Pellet stoves make plenty of heat, do it dependably, and with a thermostat. They come in different output sizes so if you need a constant 20,40,or 60 thousand btus then be sure you have the right stove(s).Kioti CK30HST, FEL w/toothbar, 60" RC, 60" BB, PJ 10k trailer. Weekend warrior hauling 50 miles each way.
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