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    Quote Originally Posted by MossRoad
    The same company that moved that large brick building in that thread that I linked to also has moved many houses in our area, some with partial brick. I agree, though, that it takes a professional to do it.
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    Good picture Moss. You can clearly see where the mover reinforced the base of the brick, then banded the entire house. Not doing so, would certainly be disastrous. That would be added cost if that house was sold. If it was the same owner the extra cost to keep the brick was probably less that replacement. But it is heavily reinforced at the bricks foundation. The house will still suffer some mortar cracks because the house will twist ever so slightly, which can easily be repaired by specialist that work on unsettled foundation repairs.

    If the OP wants to try to re-coop some money he'll try to sell it. It's certainly his choice. Just saying, that is what I would try first.

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    Kid, If you go back to my first post on this thread you'll see I said the guys the OP talked about wouldn't have the equipment to move a house safely. Brick or no brick. Brick veneer houses are moved all the time without removing or damaging the brick. Yes, it takes someone that knows what they're doing. In MY area houses that are to be moved have no value. That is partially because they must be brought up to current building codes which is very expensive. If the OP can get anything out of his house then more power to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pops15
    Kid, If you go back to my first post on this thread you'll see I said the guys the OP talked about wouldn't have the equipment to move a house safely. Brick or no brick. Brick veneer houses are moved all the time without removing or damaging the brick. Yes, it takes someone that knows what they're doing. In MY area houses that are to be moved have no value. That is partially because they must be brought up to current building codes which is very expensive. If the OP can get anything out of his house then more power to him.
    Pops, You keep mentioning codes. Don't you think any building would have to be up to codes. My original comment was saying there is value in a complete framed house. Sure it has to be inspected and released. I never said it didn't. Just as any new installation. You obviously have no idea what it cost to frame a 2200 square foot house labor and materials this day and time. Lumber isn't cheap. You have made up your mind that homes moved off their original foundation are worthless. So I'll leave it at that. My milage does vary. From yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The kid View Post
    Pops, You keep mentioning codes. Don't you think any building would have to be up to codes. My original comment was saying there is value in a complete framed house. Sure it has to be inspected and released. I never said it didn't. Just as any new installation. You obviously have no idea what it cost to frame a 2200 square foot house labor and materials this day and time. Lumber isn't cheap. You have made up your mind that homes moved off their original foundation are worthless. So I'll leave it at that. My milage does vary. From yours.
    What makes you an expert? You didn't even know a house could be moved with the bricks in place.
    I'm a contractor. I've built everything from room additions to 8000SF houses. I think I have a pretty good handle on what things cost.
    It used to be you could move a house and the only things you had to do were the foundation, and utility hook ups. Not so (in my area) anymore. Plumbing and electrical must be brought up to code. That means ripping out the drywall or plaster to access it. You see, the inspector just won't take your word that everything is up to code. They have to see it! With the EPA RRP (lead paint) work rules now in effect those costs can be astronomical for houses built before '78. Let's not forget the hurricane clips to fasten the roof to the walls. Yep, you'll be tearing out the ceiling and upper wall drywall to put those on. Many houses built in the 50's and 60's used a diagonal 1X8 notched into the studs for sway prevention. Those aren't allowed under current code. You might get lucky and find an inspector that will let you use metal braces on the inside (after you tear off more drywall, and baseboard). If not, you'll be tearing off the brick and putting OSB sheathing on the walls. Let's not forget the new energy efficiency codes. Things like insulation and windows needing to be replaced. This is just the tip of the iceburg. There are many more things that may need to be addressed like straps on the garage door header. Steel plates in certain headers. C clips on plywood roof sheathing if the rafters are 24" OC.
    You may not be required to do all those things in your area but in my area a moved house must meet current codes. In some cases that means gutting the house to the framing to make the needed upgrades. By the time you factor in the movers cost, permits, and the cost to bring the house up to code IN MY AREA it's cheaper to build new. In some cases a cash bond to cover potential road damage. The costs of moving and bringing a house up to code can often negate any value the structure may have.
    A perfect example is the "free" house that ended up costing the town $276K. It's well under 1000SF. The 276 doesn't count the lot which was donated by a developer.
    Obviously if houses are still being moved in your area they aren't requiring them to be brought to current code so there would be some value to the structure. It's certainly not that way here and other places as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pops15
    What makes you an expert? You didn't even know a house could be moved with the bricks in place.
    I'm a contractor. I've built everything from room additions to 8000SF houses. I think I have a pretty good handle on what things cost.
    It used to be you could move a house and the only things you had to do were the foundation, and utility hook ups. Not so (in my area) anymore. Plumbing and electrical must be brought up to code. That means ripping out the drywall or plaster to access it. You see, the inspector just won't take your word that everything is up to code. They have to see it! With the EPA RRP (lead paint) work rules now in effect those costs can be astronomical for houses built before '78. Let's not forget the hurricane clips to fasten the roof to the walls. Yep, you'll be tearing out the ceiling and upper wall drywall to put those on. Many houses built in the 50's and 60's used a diagonal 1X8 notched into the studs for sway prevention. Those aren't allowed under current code. You might get lucky and find an inspector that will let you use metal braces on the inside (after you tear off more drywall, and baseboard). If not, you'll be tearing off the brick and putting OSB sheathing on the walls. Let's not forget the new energy efficiency codes. Things like insulation and windows needing to be replaced. This is just the tip of the iceburg. There are many more things that may need to be addressed like straps on the garage door header. Steel plates in certain headers. C clips on plywood roof sheathing if the rafters are 24" OC.
    You may not be required to do all those things in your area but in my area a moved house must meet current codes. In some cases that means gutting the house to the framing to make the needed upgrades. By the time you factor in the movers cost, permits, and the cost to bring the house up to code IN MY AREA it's cheaper to build new. In some cases a cash bond to cover potential road damage. The costs of moving and bringing a house up to code can often negate any value the structure may have.
    A perfect example is the "free" house that ended up costing the town $276K. It's well under 1000SF. The 276 doesn't count the lot which was donated by a developer.
    Obviously if houses are still being moved in your area they aren't requiring them to be brought to current code so there would be some value to the structure. It's certainly not that way here and other places as well.
    Hold your horses Bubba. Please read my post before putting your foot in your mouth. You are clueless as to codes in my area. They are the probably the same most everywhere for insurance purposes alone. Please re-read my post carefully. you keep saying. You.. You. It is not me that's moving a house. I would have the house moved. All of the above your hammering me with is done by the mover. Got it. It was not me casting stones at whoever was going to move it. REREAD THIER POST TOO. WE DO NOT HAVE HURRICANES here in Tennessee but we do have Tornados. How you move a house Is certainly your business. My original comment was there was worth in a house to be moved. Your milage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The kid View Post
    Pops, You keep mentioning codes. Don't you think any building would have to be up to codes. My original comment was saying there is value in a complete framed house. Sure it has to be inspected and released. I never said it didn't. Just as any new installation. You obviously have no idea what it cost to frame a 2200 square foot house labor and materials this day and time. Lumber isn't cheap. You have made up your mind that homes moved off their original foundation are worthless. So I'll leave it at that. My milage does vary. From yours.
    since you are so admant that people will buy houses to be moved you must have some examples? Perhaps you could post some bids you have seen offered?

    Yes, theoretically there is some value in such a house - moving costs eat it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnkey4099

    since you are so admant that people will buy houses to be moved you must have some examples? Perhaps you could post some bids you have seen offered?

    Yes, theoretically there is some value in such a house - moving costs eat it up.

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    The word is adamant. Perhaps you should read my previous post instead of skimming it and making assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The kid View Post
    Hold your horses Bubba. Please read my post before putting your foot in your mouth. You are clueless as to codes in my area. They are the probably the same most everywhere for insurance purposes alone. Please re-read my post carefully. you keep saying. You.. You. It is not me that's moving a house. I would have the house moved. All of the above your hammering me with is done by the mover. Got it. It was not me casting stones at whoever was going to move it. REREAD THIER POST TOO. WE DO NOT HAVE HURRICANES here in Tennessee but we do have Tornados. How you move a house Is certainly your business. My original comment was there was worth in a house to be moved. Your milage may vary.
    If you go back and re-read my previous posts I said several times how it works in MY area. I also know that's how it works in at least some other areas (California) as I know people that have been involved in moves or at least looked into it.
    We don't have hurricanes in Illinois either, but the NATIONAL Building Code calls for the hurricane brackets. Everyplace in the US is SUPPOSED to abide by the national code. Not everyone does.
    My original comment is there isn't always worth in a house to be moved. I gave examples as to why that is.
    It is what it is. At least the OP has some things to look into to determine what he can get for his house.

    One more thing for the OP to consider. Make darn sure you get certificates of insurance from anyone you allow to work on your property!
    I'm done with this. Have a great evening!
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    I've bought and moved a few. The most I've ever paid is $6000.00 for a structure but I'm cheap and and not in the market for houses that need to be cut or topped.

    A 2000+ sqft is a big house to be moved and will cost a bunch.

    First, I would want to know if he was going to resell it in place then move it off when he get's his money. He may not tell you this. You'll just start seeing strange people wandering around looking in the windows.

    Find this out first.

    You may be better off selling it yourself on Craigslist then let the buyer hire a reputable mover.

    Other questions.

    When do you get your money?

    Does he have insurance, do you?

    Deadline to move after sale, allowing for weather?

    Permits? Utility disconnect?

    Will you lose any valuable trees in the move off your property?

    Site cleanup, repair, and trash/debris removal agreement? I would require a deposit on that or factor it into you selling price.

    Just stuff off the top of my head. Post picture if it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The kid View Post
    The word is adamant. Perhaps you should read my previous post instead of skimming it and making assumptions.
    A typo flame? Really?

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