tcreeley
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The RV antifreeze is not toxic like Ethylene Glycol is.
I'd think twice before putting mice drowned in this stuff on posts for hawks to eat.
The RV antifreeze is not toxic like Ethylene Glycol is.
I'd think twice before putting mice drowned in this stuff on posts for hawks to eat.
Why? you have eaten plenty of it in foods, drinks, and medications. (propylene glycol) and so Have I. It may be killing us for all I know, but it sure is approved by our government
Why? you have eaten plenty of it in foods, drinks, and medications. (propylene glycol) and so Have I. It may be killing us for all I know, but it sure is approved by our government
apparently whole dog journal needs to update it's records.. I think they are still living in the 50's and 60's.
true alcohol based AF is QUITE old.
as for propylene glycol
It is in the 'generally recognized as safe' category by the FDA.
It is also used in many oral and injectable preparations for materials not miscible in water.. like some benzodiazapines.
it's one of the main ingrediants in my mouth wash... a quick check showed it to be in about 20 products in my bathroom tht either go on my skin or are slightly ingestable.. or meant to be ingested.
soundguy
But the antifreeze being referred to here (for use in a mouse trap) is RV antifreeze, it is intended for use in RV waterlines to keep them from freezing and as such, non-toxic (or not very toxic at least) to living beings. Here is the MSDS for some RV antifreeze made by Prestone: MSDS PRESTONE RV ANTIFREEZE showing Propylene Glycol as the active ingredient.It is apparently the alcohol poisoning that is lethal to dogs and cats. The risk factor is how does that dose of alcohol affect a dog, and the sweet taste makes it attractive to drink.
Human alcoholics do drink mouthwash.
I'm not up on chemicals like you, but here are some quick google hits:
According to this in 1999, Prestone contained 80-96 percent ethylene glycol. http://www.nukaresearch.com/projects/SeldoviaHarbor/documents/MSDSAntifreezeEG.pdf
This one, PAR coolant, was 94% ethylene glycol in May 2007. http://www.kmcoinc.com/antifreeze MSDS.pdf
Castrol: 90-95 percent ethylene glycol.http://datasheets.bp.com/ussds/amersdsf.nsf/0/04226F062D82F07186257307004F931C/$file/014244US-Lubes%20Americas-BP%20(Wayne,%20NJ%20US).pdf
It is apparently the alcohol poisoning that is lethal to dogs and cats. The risk factor is how does that dose of alcohol affect a dog, and the sweet taste makes it attractive to drink.
Human alcoholics do drink mouthwash.
I'm not up on chemicals like you, but here are some quick google hits:
According to this in 1999, Prestone contained 80-96 percent ethylene glycol. http://www.nukaresearch.com/projects/SeldoviaHarbor/documents/MSDSAntifreezeEG.pdf
This one, PAR coolant, was 94% ethylene glycol in May 2007. http://www.kmcoinc.com/antifreeze MSDS.pdf
Castrol: 90-95 percent ethylene glycol.http://datasheets.bp.com/ussds/amersdsf.nsf/0/04226F062D82F07186257307004F931C/$file/014244US-Lubes%20Americas-BP%20(Wayne,%20NJ%20US).pdf