Gun Control: This speaks for itself

[TripleR]

Some who worship the various studies on guns might want to research "Arming America" by Michael A. Bellesiles, it was put forth as a leading authority on guns and used by pro gun control groups, praised and won prestigious awards until a peer review was done and found to be essentially useless.

 

[deathtoblackberries]

So why do some people vehemently oppose any attempts to protect the public from firearms in the hands of those who are unwilling or incapable to use them responsibly?

Because the anti-gun liberal agenda is to infringe and erode our rights under the 2nd amendment towards their ultimate goal of banning guns. Its not a theory leading liberal politicians go right out there on the network news and say so. No the real issue is that no common sense compromise can be agreed upon with the anti-gun liberals because they do not negotiate in good faith.

 

[greasemonkeyok]

Because the anti-gun liberal agenda is to infringe and erode our rights under the 2nd amendment towards their ultimate goal of banning guns. Its not a theory leading liberal politicians go right out there on the network news and say so. No the real issue is that no common sense compromise can be agreed upon with the anti-gun liberals because they do not negotiate in good faith.

I don't buy that argument, because the the anti-gun liberal agenda folks are not in control. Especially when the polls show a majority of NRA members do not oppose expanded background checks.

Gun-control is not a binary issue, but if the political blow-back gets strong enough it might head that way. Better to pass reasonable measures like expanded background checks to deflect some of the blow-back now.

 

[Pixguy]

Looks like the gun nuts have some work to do......

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[IslandTractor]

Some who worship the various studies on guns might want to research "Arming America" by Michael A. Bellesiles, it was put forth as a leading authority on guns and used by pro gun control groups, praised and won prestigious awards until a peer review was done and found to be essentially useless.

As far as I am concerned the science and epidemiology of the vast majority of gun studies is way behind what science is capable of these days. The essential problem remains that this important issue of how to improve gun safety is too tied up with politics to permit unfettered scientific study. That said, we need to make do with the data we have until the NRA stops blocking better studies.

 

[teejk]

I don't buy that argument, because the the anti-gun liberal agenda folks are not in control. Especially when the polls show a majority of NRA members do not oppose expanded background checks.

Gun-control is not a binary issue, but if the political blow-back gets strong enough it might head that way. Better to pass reasonable measures like expanded background checks to deflect some of the blow-back now.

Please explain what "expanded background checks" would do to solve the problem. And I'll repeat that the NRA has 6 million members (in a population of 325 million...2% if you don't have a calculator handy). Other than the "red herrings", how many incidents involve guns that didn't involve the 6 part form that goes nowhere under current law?

The NRA learned a lot about "slippery slopes" from the tobacco wars. There is no such thing as compromise when dealing with a leftie. The liberal "vision" of Utopia is either a quick strike or failing that, a method of chipping away in small bites.

Definition of Utopia...imaginary and ideal country in Utopia (1516) by Sir Thomas More

 

[buickanddeere]

Sad event.
Gun control begins at home.
Then we should strive to keep them out of the hands of those who will not use them responsibly. Identifying the irresponsible people is the problem.

We'll see how long it takes this thread to go political and get moved.

Strange how firearm and aircraft deaths are headline news. Yet a child dies from drinking lemon scented cleaning compounds or drowns in a bathtub etc and it's a secret.
Why do some people blame the gun for a death yet the same people blame the driver for an automobile crash? Main reason is that they don"t want to give up thier vehicle or have extra controls in place. No skin off thier nose to add firearm regulations or ban firearms if they don"t own or use firearms.

 

[k0ua]

Here is an example of "gun control" The Federal "gun free zone" Now a good kid's life is ruined . A lot of guys brought guns to school in their cars and truck when I was in High School.. As long as they stayed there locked up, no problem with any official. What happened to this young man is wrong.

Student Punished, Charged With a Felony After He

 

[Yamezz]

A lot of guys brought guns to school in their cars and truck when I was in High School.

Why on earth would you bring a gun to school? No wonder America gives the impression of a war zone. Did anyone even watch the videos posted earlier about actual experience with gun control?

 

[farmgirl19]

Here is an example of "gun control" The Federal "gun free zone" Now a good kid's life is ruined . A lot of guys brought guns to school in their cars and truck when I was in High School.. As long as they stayed there locked up, no problem with any official. What happened to this young man is wrong.

Student Punished, Charged With a Felony After He

Hey, some if us didn't lock them up. Most of us in pickups had gun racks, and usually guns in those racks. In Texas, temps in vehicles were hot enough to bake you, on a hot day, in September. Most of us had no A/C then either. Close the windows and lock the truck? Not likely! Yet, those guns were not bothered, and no one was hurt.

Now, we have "zero tolerance" and "gun free zones", and the schools are being shot up. What's wrong with this picture?