UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road

   / UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road #11  
Our USPS mail lady drops packages on front porch IF gate is open. Think I will go have a conversation with Post Master and discuss reality.

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   / UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road #12  
No USPS delivery here but UPS & FedEx come up the canyon, road conditions permitting, and leave stuff down by the cattle guard at the start of our drive. From there it's sometimes a 4WD only kinda situation so they rarely come all the way to the house. Both wrap in plastic if weather threatens. On those occasions when the canyon road is washed out or mudded or snowed in they'll just leave stuff with a neighbor closer to the pavement or at the post office and Bonnie (our Postmistress) will give a shout that it's there.

Informal and probably against several delivery company and PO rules, but it works here in BFE, Utah.
 
   / UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road #13  
I worked for UPS and Airborne Express when I lived in CA and usually just hid the package behind the gate if I didn't need a signature and I felt it was a safe area. Rarely was there ever an issue in rural properties. As a driver, it's all about getting rid of the packages and not bringing anything back, so unless there was a really good reason not to leave it there, that's what happened to most every package with a gate.

Now I live out in the country and I'm 800 feet back from my gate. Usually it's open and they drive down to the house and leave the package at the back door. But if it's locked, I either get a note saying they need a signature or they leave it behind the gate. If I can, when I buy online, I say to leave the package at the gate if it's locked. I don't think I'd want a box or something out there, but when I was a driver, I came across a few and used them when the package would fit in there and it was ok to leave the package.

Every time that there was an issue, it was because the customer wanted it left and the shipper specified that they wanted a signature. The shipper makes the rules, so it's always up to them what happens.

Eddie
 
   / UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road #14  
Here is what I did:

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My mail box is on the other side of the road. I wired a trash can (with swinging lid) to the inside of the fence and put a 'Parcel Drop' sign on it. My gate is usually locked. UPS & FedEx have no problem with the drop box. As it is always there, the bad guys don't know when to look; never been a problem. Also, with their paging systems, I know when something has been delivered.

The sign just came off my ink jet printer. Sprayed it with polyurethane and taped it with clear tape. It is holding up well. Have some old pillows in the can. Cushions the package and I don't have to reach all the way to the bottom to fish out the delivery.

USPS is delivered via highway contractor. He won't get out of his car, period. Talking to the post master wouldn't change his ways. So I always try not to use USPS for packages and the a&*#$%es can go broke for all I care.

I've befriended the owner of the feed store out on the highway (Derek at the Feedbag shout out!). He'll happily accept large or expensive parcels for me whenever there is a concern.

And, with Amazon Prime, do you know they'll refund the purchase of a missed package with almost no questions asked on only a phone call?

Bob
 
   / UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road #15  
You gate guys could make a large metal package sized mailbox type drop box, like the example of the trash can in above post, that has it's door for the delivery guy open out from the outside of the fence with a padlocked door on the inside of the fence. Then the delivery guy can drop the pkg. in the box, you can then unlock the box and retrieve the package, from the yard side of the fence. You could have a keypad or dial number padlock on the delivery side to deter thieves. For added protection you could arm the turret guards with auto mags, armor piercing rounds, Napam, ( a favorite choice of many), and any other personal touches!:eek:
 
   / UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road #16  
We also have electric gate. Since we have the same driver delivering the packages both the FedEx and UPS know how to open the gate ands bring it to the house. My wife pays them hundred or so bucks before Christmas for good service. Nevertheless I am thinking about delivery box by the gate because sometime our drive is snowed in for few days.
 
   / UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road #17  
Our road ends at a cul-de-sac we share with a problem neighbor; our driveway starts behind an electric gate and the house is over a hill a quarter mile beyond that. Years ago I picked up a Knaack type box on Craig's List for about $75, dug a couple fairly large holes, laid in concrete with a couple of foundation anchor bolts, ran them up through the bottom of the box, installed the nuts, then banged over the threads to keep them from, ahem, walking off. A coat of paint that matched the fence gave it a nice country look. I didn't like the two built in padlocks the box came with, so I put a simple hasp with a spin dial combo padlock on it. That worked OK for a while until someone stole the padlock. I found a Master brand hasp with an integrated padlock; now about 1 in 5 times the nitwit delivery person locks the lock before the bolt engages the hasp. All this in spite of instructions clearly explaining how the lock works being posted on the outside of the box. Luckily I haven't lost any packages yet, nor had any damaged by the weather.

The neighbor, on the other hand, has a cheap plastic box by his gate, and the lid regularly blows off or the box blows over to my gate. Now they've taken to leaving a large rock on the lid, which looks like crap, but then so does the cargo container parked just inside their gate. Ex-college professor back-to-the-land hippie trailer trash idiots. Yeah, we get along great (not).

Anyway, delivery drivers will still put stuff behind the gate for some reason, and once, when I was out of town for a month, an eight foot vertical blind was left on the ground beside the gate for several weeks. Fortunately the shipper wrapped the contents inside the box with plastic because it went through several storms before I returned. As others have found, the on line tracking systems for FedEx and UPS let me know when to expect a delivery, and unless it's something expensive like a camera, I just know to check the box at the end of the day. I have a temporary gate code I give out for contractor and freight delivery access and set that up in the keypad for the day. Freight companies will call the day before to make arrangements, and my usual UPS guy will sometimes call when he delivers a large package that won't fit in the 2'x2'x4' box. Unfortunately around here, neither FedEx nor UPS keep the same driver on the same route forever, and they seem to have rotating days off and temp delivery personnel as well.

Nobody's mentioned mailboxes in this thread, but I found one with a locking door. The slot was wide enough to let a thin hand get to the mail, but a few minutes in the shop with some sheet metal and the welder fixed that. Now if I could just get the post person to push the mail all the way past the slot so it would drop into the box, life would be good. Most of the folks that have these jobs are honest, hard working people that really try to make sure their deliveries are left in secure locations. Unfortunately a few bad apples always seem to gum up the works and leave stuff out where any passer by can walk off with it. I guess that's what insurance is for, and one of the tradeoffs for living in God's country.

Even after all that, if someone really wants the package, they'll just throw a chain around either box and steal the whole shootin' match. And if they want to get to the house, they'll do the same with the gate. We've had some trouble with the druggies in the area, but I figure if someone else's place is easier to get to, they'll go there instead.

BTW, I think bragging about firearms and guard dogs on line is foolish because if something untoward should happen, those posts will be your defense attorney's worst nightmare when they're linked back to you.
 
   / UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road
  • Thread Starter
#18  
Hey Yardbikebob, I like that. Kind of what I was thinking but simpler.
Actually I'm more concerned with weather and neighborhood dogs than thieves. We will be living on a road with no through access, so not a lot of non resident traffic. Thanks for all the ideas so far!
 
   / UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road #19  
When I know a package is expected, I have a sign that I hook on my fence that says to place the package on the ground behind the gate. That has always worked well. I also worked for UPS eons ago...and what Eddie says is right. The name of the game for a delivery driver is to get rid of the package as best as possible.
 
   / UPS/FedEx Deliveries with gated road #20  
I have a mile long gravel driveway and live WAY out in the country. I'm retired so on the date of package delivery I can check frequently or just wait at the outer gate for delivery. The FedEx & UPS folks are really great and will normally bring the pkg right up to the house. During heavy snows I often ask that the pkg be hung on the outer gate and they will always put in a plastic bag and hang on the gate. Easier to go get a pkg at the far end of the driveway than to get a UPS truck unstuck.
 

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