_RaT_ said:Thats how its done here, how do they do it where you live?
I work for Louisiana DOTD and that would be a big problem for us. We don't allow utility poles to be that close to the roadway. Usually, the poles go at the edge of the highway right-of-way, behind the ditches. Now, it may be different on city or parish roads.JimR said:That's how they are done around here and everywhere else in N.E. Over the last 30 years I have pulled at least a dozen vehicles out of this ditch during the wintertime when there is snow on the road. Not one of then has hit a pole yet.
So true!tallyho8 said:All of the poles are like that on the River Road where I live. Cars hit one every week. All the poles have dates on them. I checked the dates on 16 of them in my block and none were older than 4 years old. People don't drive too well around here. Do y'all have daiquiri shops with drive-up windows?
Jarrett said:I work for Louisiana DOTD and that would be a big problem for us. We don't allow utility poles to be that close to the roadway. Usually, the poles go at the edge of the highway right-of-way, behind the ditches. Now, it may be different on city or parish roads.
So true!
if you're going to have a ditch above a culvert then why do you need the culvert?LarryRB said:You are required a 3" drop from road, back towards ditch.
Jarrett said:I work for Louisiana DOTD and that would be a big problem for us. We don't allow utility poles to be that close to the roadway. Usually, the poles go at the edge of the highway right-of-way, behind the ditches. Now, it may be different on city or parish roads.
Funny you should ask this. Most who want to access their property install a culvert and gravel over the culvert to get on their property, I have a 4X 4 pickup and could probably access this using the present ditch. I don't however because it is hard on the truck and hard on the ditch. So, people drop in these culverts, cover with gravel and drive on in... It is Massachusetts chapter 90 law, one cannot push snow or ice from their drive access back onto a public roadway... We get lot's of snow some years and always get lot's of freezing rain every year. If the top of the culvert were to be even or higher than road it is accessing, then you guarantee to push freezing rain/ice, or snow onto that public roadway. The property owner becomes liable for accidents and even excessive sanding if required by the local highway dept. Thus, the access top has to be three inches lower than the road..LBrown59 said:[
if you're going to have a ditch above a culvert then why do you need the culvert?
MikeD74T said:Jarrett said:I work for Louisiana DOTD and that would be a big problem for us. We don't allow utility poles to be that close to the roadway. Usually, the poles go at the edge of the highway right-of-way, behind the ditches. Now, it may be different on city or parish roads.
Keep in mind that New England roads go back to the 1600's. Those poles are very likely on the edge of the right of way & the ditch on private property. The concept of a 50' or more right of way is much newer than New England. MikeD74T
MikeD74T said:Jarrett said:I work for Louisiana DOTD and that would be a big problem for us. We don't allow utility poles to be that close to the roadway. Usually, the poles go at the edge of the highway right-of-way, behind the ditches. Now, it may be different on city or parish roads.QUOTE]
Keep in mind that New England roads go back to the 1600's. Those poles are very likely on the edge of the right of way & the ditch on private property. The concept of a 50' or more right of way is much newer than New England. MikeD74T
The traditional road right of way in New England is based on the old English roads standards, which are 2 rods wide. A rod is 17.5 feet. The measurement is take on the road center as the road is normally traveled.
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